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RE: What would change your mind?
February 22, 2017 at 3:15 pm
(February 22, 2017 at 10:27 am)Little Rik Wrote: (February 22, 2017 at 9:12 am)Nymphadora Wrote: Wrong.
For me, I've already put it to rest. There is no god or gods. None of them ever took me up on my invitation to lunch. So, there's that.
That is silly Nympha.
Why God would take up your invitation to lunch considering that you still do not follow logic?
How can you expect that the universe pop up as per magic and nobody run it?
Give time and when you will start following logic and your mind will be open to all possibility then God will take up your invitation. 
Quote:The only way you can be right about the question never being put to rest is because more and more people are realizing how stupid god and religion are and they are joining forums like this. So those people haven't had the chance to answer the question yet.
In a way it is understandable that many people do not believe in God because of religions.
Religions have done so much damage with all their dogmas and invented so called truth that
too many people are put off but if their would look a bit further over their mind then they would understand that God and religions have very little in common. 
There is NO logic in the concept of a being that is supposedly beyond all levels of human understanding but displays all the worst traits of humanity: cruelty, jealousy, pettiness, vanity, etc.
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RE: What would change your mind?
February 22, 2017 at 6:51 pm
(February 22, 2017 at 3:15 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: There is NO logic in the concept of a being that is supposedly beyond all levels of human understanding but displays all the worst traits of humanity: cruelty, jealousy, pettiness, vanity, etc.
This is interesting. IMO, it almost seems like religious practitioners are projecting their human failings/shortcomings onto another life-form.
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RE: What would change your mind?
February 22, 2017 at 6:57 pm
(February 22, 2017 at 6:51 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: (February 22, 2017 at 3:15 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: There is NO logic in the concept of a being that is supposedly beyond all levels of human understanding but displays all the worst traits of humanity: cruelty, jealousy, pettiness, vanity, etc.
This is interesting. IMO, it almost seems like religious practitioners are projecting their human failings/shortcomings onto another life-form.
There's a saying, and I don't know who it's by (Hitchens?) which, paraphrased, goes something like, "Isn't it amazing that the god you worship has exactly the same hatreds, the same opinions, the same morals and likes, that you have?"
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What would change your mind?
February 22, 2017 at 8:13 pm
All it would take for me to believe is a set of Baltimore Oriole's tickets showing up at my house for me. That would do it.
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RE: What would change your mind?
February 22, 2017 at 8:24 pm
(February 22, 2017 at 8:13 pm)KUSA Wrote: All it would take for me to believe is a set of Baltimore Oriole's tickets showing up at my house for me. That would do it.
So, if I bought some and sent them to you, you'd worship me?
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RE: What would change your mind?
February 22, 2017 at 8:33 pm
(February 22, 2017 at 6:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (February 22, 2017 at 6:51 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: This is interesting. IMO, it almost seems like religious practitioners are projecting their human failings/shortcomings onto another life-form.
There's a saying, and I don't know who it's by (Hitchens?) which, paraphrased, goes something like, "Isn't it amazing that the god you worship has exactly the same hatreds, the same opinions, the same morals and likes, that you have?"
“You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.” Anne Lamott
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: What would change your mind?
February 22, 2017 at 8:37 pm
If the christer gawd were real, it would know exactly what it would take to prove itself to me and being all knowing and all powerful, it could do so without violating my free will or whatever other bullshit argument the christer will make again the idea.
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RE: What would change your mind?
February 22, 2017 at 8:42 pm
(February 22, 2017 at 8:33 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (February 22, 2017 at 6:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: There's a saying, and I don't know who it's by (Hitchens?) which, paraphrased, goes something like, "Isn't it amazing that the god you worship has exactly the same hatreds, the same opinions, the same morals and likes, that you have?"
“You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.” Anne Lamott
That's it!
Thank you!
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RE: What would change your mind?
February 22, 2017 at 8:52 pm
(February 22, 2017 at 8:24 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (February 22, 2017 at 8:13 pm)KUSA Wrote: All it would take for me to believe is a set of Baltimore Oriole's tickets showing up at my house for me. That would do it.
So, if I bought some and sent them to you, you'd worship me?
We all worship you anyway, sweets. Ask around. 
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RE: What would change your mind?
February 22, 2017 at 8:57 pm
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