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RE: Theistic Inclinations
February 24, 2017 at 2:23 pm
(February 23, 2017 at 6:31 am)Adventurer Wrote: Hello all,
I would like to inform all that I have theistic inclinations. When I apply rationalism, I am clearly an atheist. When I let go of rationalism and let my emotions run, I feel lightened up with thoughts about god.
Regardless whether god exists or not, it is good to live with imagination at times. These times, my imagination includes god.
Deliberate rationality leaves me depressed and feeling empty. Ideally, I'll limit use rationality to only times when I am handling scientific issues, addressing humanitarian issues and dealing with the reality.
I hope that this can spark a good discussion,
Regards They way to see God is through love.
We do this with our parents, we do this with ourselves, we do this with our friends.
It's how we relate to people.
Love itself at whatever level, is a descent from the divine.
It's language manifests the highest reality, and manifests us who are linked to that reality.
If you wish to see God, you must come with a passion to see God.
Atheists may say love doesn't make you see anything, yet, their stance against racism for example, is seen through the language of love.
All moral issues are seen with the language of love.
Love is the vision of the spiritual truths if you love the beloved, you will see the beloved.
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RE: Theistic Inclinations
February 24, 2017 at 2:25 pm
Ladies and gentleman, the answer to the age old question above. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I
Baby........don't hurt me..... 
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Theistic Inclinations
February 24, 2017 at 2:26 pm
(February 24, 2017 at 2:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Atheists may say love doesn't make you see anything, yet, their stance against racism for example, is seen through the language of love.
Strawman. Also, wrong. There's logic behind my moral decisions.
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RE: Theistic Inclinations
February 24, 2017 at 2:26 pm
(February 23, 2017 at 8:21 pm)chimp3 Wrote: When I let my imagination conjure up imaginary beings it usually conjures up Groucho Marx. Groucho usually cheers me up and sets me on the true path.
I thought groucho Marx was real! or was "duck soup" just a fever dream.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.
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RE: Theistic Inclinations
February 24, 2017 at 3:13 pm
(February 24, 2017 at 2:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (February 23, 2017 at 6:31 am)Adventurer Wrote: Hello all,
I would like to inform all that I have theistic inclinations. When I apply rationalism, I am clearly an atheist. When I let go of rationalism and let my emotions run, I feel lightened up with thoughts about god.
Regardless whether god exists or not, it is good to live with imagination at times. These times, my imagination includes god.
Deliberate rationality leaves me depressed and feeling empty. Ideally, I'll limit use rationality to only times when I am handling scientific issues, addressing humanitarian issues and dealing with the reality.
I hope that this can spark a good discussion,
Regards They way to see God is through love.
We do this with our parents, we do this with ourselves, we do this with our friends.
It's how we relate to people.
Love itself at whatever level, is a descent from the divine.
It's language manifests the highest reality, and manifests us who are linked to that reality.
If you wish to see God, you must come with a passion to see God.
Atheists may say love doesn't make you see anything, yet, their stance against racism for example, is seen through the language of love.
All moral issues are seen with the language of love.
Love is the vision of the spiritual truths if you love the beloved, you will see the beloved.
Meaningless tripe.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam
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RE: Theistic Inclinations
February 24, 2017 at 4:13 pm
Sounds like all Mystic Knight has to offer us is a license with "Love" scratched out and "God" written in in crayon.
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RE: Theistic Inclinations
February 24, 2017 at 5:14 pm
(February 24, 2017 at 2:26 pm)Jesster Wrote: (February 24, 2017 at 2:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Atheists may say love doesn't make you see anything, yet, their stance against racism for example, is seen through the language of love.
Strawman. Also, wrong. There's logic behind my moral decisions.
You're smart, fellow logic lover.
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RE: Theistic Inclinations
February 24, 2017 at 5:58 pm
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(February 24, 2017 at 2:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: They way to see God is through love.
We do this with our parents, we do this with ourselves, we do this with our friends.
It's how we relate to people.
Love itself at whatever level, is a descent from the divine.
It's language manifests the highest reality, and manifests us who are linked to that reality.
If you wish to see God, you must come with a passion to see God.
Atheists may say love doesn't make you see anything, yet, their stance against racism for example, is seen through the language of love.
All moral issues are seen with the language of love.
Love is the vision of the spiritual truths if you love the beloved, you will see the beloved.
Love?
But I gathered these verses from the Quran, where God insists on fear:
Sura 5
( 44 ) Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah] judged by it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and scholars by that with which they were entrusted of the Scripture of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto. So do not fear the people but fear Me, and do not exchange My verses for a small price. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the disbelievers.
Sura 2
( 150 ) And from wherever you go out [for prayer], turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] may be, turn your faces toward it in order that the people will not have any argument against you, except for those of them who commit wrong; so fear them not but fear Me. And [it is] so I may complete My favor upon you and that you may be guided.
Sura 16
( 2 ) He sends down the angels, with the inspiration of His command, upon whom He wills of His servants, [telling them], "Warn that there is no deity except Me; so fear Me."
Sura 39
( 15 ) So worship what you will besides Him." Say, "Indeed, the losers are the ones who will lose themselves and their families on the Day of Resurrection. Unquestionably, that is the manifest loss."
( 16 ) They will have canopies of fire above them and below them, canopies. By that Allah threatens His servants. O My servants, then fear Me.
Fear fear fear.
Hell, fire, pain.
What kind of God, rules through a binary ability?
The universe was made by love?
Do tigers say "I love you" before chewing you alive?
Does death hug people, kissing the living breath out of their loved realities?
A real God, is the creator of love, death, misery, happiness, light, darkness, the void itself.
From the Quran:
Sura 53
( 38 ) That no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another
( 39 ) And that there is not for man except that [good] for which he strives
( 40 ) And that his effort is going to be seen -
( 41 ) Then he will be recompensed for it with the fullest recompense
( 42 ) And that to your Lord is the finality
( 43 ) And that it is He who makes [one] laugh and weep
( 44 ) And that it is He who causes death and gives life
He who makes one laugh and weep. He rules through everything. Love is just a creation.
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RE: Theistic Inclinations
February 24, 2017 at 6:08 pm
Because God likes contradictions.
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RE: Theistic Inclinations
February 24, 2017 at 6:12 pm
(February 24, 2017 at 6:08 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Because God likes contradictions.
More like creating the meaning of contradiction.
To us its contradiction, to him it's just a creation.
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