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RE: Four kids & mom of Catholic family die in a house fire.
March 8, 2017 at 5:30 pm
(March 8, 2017 at 5:14 pm)Whateverist Wrote: All I can imagine is that Jehanne must have had some rough times on account of his disbelief to harbor so much hate toward believers. While I don't identify with that perspective at all, I think it is probably good that someone this disturbed has a place to get shit off his chest and then deal with the feed back he gets. Maybe it's what he needs? Anyhow, some atheists have been pretty traumatized by their experience. I think we can acknowledge that even while making it clear that we don't all feel that way.
Maybe there would be a more humane way for him to channel his heartbreak...
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RE: Four kids & mom of Catholic family die in a house fire.
March 8, 2017 at 5:32 pm
(March 8, 2017 at 5:09 pm)Thena323 Wrote: (March 8, 2017 at 4:06 pm)Jehanne Wrote: In fact, if I had my way, people who believed in God could not hold political office, be on juries, be doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc., etc.
Just sayin'...That would leave an terrifyingly low number of individuals available to provide many vital and/or highly important services to the world's population.
So, how would that work? Some sort of lottery system being implemented to determine who receives medical treatment, is allowed due process, etc.? Or, perhaps simply limiting access to those determined to be "thinkers"?
The Devil would certainly be in the details, wouldn't it?
Well, yeah, we're talking a 1,000 or so (hopefully, sooner) years from now when theism is dead.
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RE: Four kids & mom of Catholic family die in a house fire.
March 8, 2017 at 5:32 pm
(March 8, 2017 at 4:36 pm)Alex K Wrote: (March 8, 2017 at 4:35 pm)Orochi Wrote: Well Thena , CL and Thump seem to think it's click bait I find myself in agreement with them I think Thena sum it up
As for our moderators they might be busy we can't expect them to be omnipresent that would be unfair
Can you explain why you think it is clickbait instead of saying that people think it is? The thread title is a clear news headline and the OP contains a link to a news story about exactly what the thread title says. Doesn't look like clickbait that falls under our rule.
For the record, this thread does happen to fit my definition of click-bait. However, I'm not concerned with how my opinion meshes with AF's rules on the matter. I'm actually of the opinion that the new click-bait rule is petty and pointless, and have never suggested that this thread should be closed or carefully moderated because of it.
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RE: Four kids & mom of Catholic family die in a house fire.
March 8, 2017 at 5:33 pm
(This post was last modified: March 8, 2017 at 5:34 pm by Jehanne.)
(March 8, 2017 at 5:30 pm)Alex K Wrote: (March 8, 2017 at 5:14 pm)Whateverist Wrote: All I can imagine is that Jehanne must have had some rough times on account of his disbelief to harbor so much hate toward believers. While I don't identify with that perspective at all, I think it is probably good that someone this disturbed has a place to get shit off his chest and then deal with the feed back he gets. Maybe it's what he needs? Anyhow, some atheists have been pretty traumatized by their experience. I think we can acknowledge that even while making it clear that we don't all feel that way.
Maybe there would be a more humane way for him to channel his heartbreak...
Well, you know, I am not out vandalizing churches, sending hate mail, making bomb threats, etc. I am just on an atheist message board bitching.
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RE: Four kids & mom of Catholic family die in a house fire.
March 8, 2017 at 5:34 pm
(March 8, 2017 at 5:32 pm)Thena323 Wrote: (March 8, 2017 at 4:36 pm)Alex K Wrote: Can you explain why you think it is clickbait instead of saying that people think it is? The thread title is a clear news headline and the OP contains a link to a news story about exactly what the thread title says. Doesn't look like clickbait that falls under our rule.
For the record, this thread does happen to fit my definition of click-bait. However, I'm not concerned with how my opinion meshes with AF's rules on the matter. I'm actually of the opinion that the new click-bait rule is petty and pointless, and have never suggested that this thread should be closed or carefully moderated because of it.
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RE: Four kids & mom of Catholic family die in a house fire.
March 8, 2017 at 5:36 pm
(March 8, 2017 at 5:23 pm)Orochi Wrote: Quote:[url=https://atheistforums.org/post-1522098.html#pid1522098][/url]In fact, if I had my way, people who believed in God could not hold political office, be on juries, be doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc., etc.
I'm all for lessening religions influence on society. But this would be discrimination on a scale never seen in the free world . It would make the mistreatment of Gays and Trans people seem miniscule by comparison
When theism is dead someday, it would be no different than discriminating against white supremacists, neo-Nazis, etc. Every society, for itself, decides who and who is not a protected class. No one has a right to be on a jury, be a doctor, be a teacher, etc.
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RE: Four kids & mom of Catholic family die in a house fire.
March 8, 2017 at 5:39 pm
(This post was last modified: March 8, 2017 at 5:41 pm by Amarok.)
(March 8, 2017 at 5:32 pm)Thena323 Wrote: (March 8, 2017 at 4:36 pm)Alex K Wrote: Can you explain why you think it is clickbait instead of saying that people think it is? The thread title is a clear news headline and the OP contains a link to a news story about exactly what the thread title says. Doesn't look like clickbait that falls under our rule.
For the record, this thread does happen to fit my definition of click-bait. However, I'm not concerned with how my opinion meshes with AF's rules on the matter. I'm actually of the opinion that the new click-bait rule is petty and pointless, and have never suggested that this thread should be closed or carefully moderated because of it.
To you last point nor did I . I was just asking if it broke the rules . And yes I agree with your definition
(March 8, 2017 at 5:36 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (March 8, 2017 at 5:23 pm)Orochi Wrote: I'm all for lessening religions influence on society. But this would be discrimination on a scale never seen in the free world . It would make the mistreatment of Gays and Trans people seem miniscule by comparison
When theism is dead someday, it would be no different than discriminating against white supremacists, neo-Nazis, etc. Every society, for itself, decides who and who is not a protected class. No one has a right to be on a jury, be a doctor, be a teacher, etc.
So Gays and Trans people should be denied certain jobs ? Would doing so not be discrimination ..And no I think Theism is quite different then the listed above groups
(March 8, 2017 at 5:36 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (March 8, 2017 at 5:23 pm)Orochi Wrote: I'm all for lessening religions influence on society. But this would be discrimination on a scale never seen in the free world . It would make the mistreatment of Gays and Trans people seem miniscule by comparison
When theism is dead someday, it would be no different than discriminating against white supremacists, neo-Nazis, etc. Every society, for itself, decides who and who is not a protected class. No one has a right to be on a jury, be a doctor, be a teacher, etc.
So Gays and Trans people should be denied certain jobs ? Would doing so not be discrimination ..And no I think Theism is quite different then the listed above groups
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RE: Four kids & mom of Catholic family die in a house fire.
March 8, 2017 at 5:43 pm
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RE: Four kids & mom of Catholic family die in a house fire.
March 8, 2017 at 5:43 pm
(March 8, 2017 at 4:06 pm)Jehanne Wrote: And, yes, while I admit that I may have overreacted on this one, I still bet that the Dad there in the video did not have a single smoke alarm in that home, and I wondering what his explanation will be for that one! And, so, stay tuned!
"I may have overreacted in this thread, but I'm sure I'm right."
That really doesn't add up, asshole. Your glee says more about you than the gist of this post, anyway.
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RE: Four kids & mom of Catholic family die in a house fire.
March 8, 2017 at 5:45 pm
(This post was last modified: March 8, 2017 at 5:46 pm by Jehanne.)
(March 8, 2017 at 5:39 pm)Orochi Wrote: (March 8, 2017 at 5:32 pm)Thena323 Wrote: For the record, this thread does happen to fit my definition of click-bait. However, I'm not concerned with how my opinion meshes with AF's rules on the matter. I'm actually of the opinion that the new click-bait rule is petty and pointless, and have never suggested that this thread should be closed or carefully moderated because of it.
To you last point nor did I . I was just asking if it broke the rules . And yes I agree with your definition
(March 8, 2017 at 5:36 pm)Jehanne Wrote: When theism is dead someday, it would be no different than discriminating against white supremacists, neo-Nazis, etc. Every society, for itself, decides who and who is not a protected class. No one has a right to be on a jury, be a doctor, be a teacher, etc.
So Gays and Trans people should be denied certain jobs ? Would doing so not be discrimination ..And no I think Theism is quite different then the listed above groups
(March 8, 2017 at 5:36 pm)Jehanne Wrote: When theism is dead someday, it would be no different than discriminating against white supremacists, neo-Nazis, etc. Every society, for itself, decides who and who is not a protected class. No one has a right to be on a jury, be a doctor, be a teacher, etc.
So Gays and Trans people should be denied certain jobs ? Would doing so not be discrimination ..And no I think Theism is quite different then the listed above groups
No, absolutely, positively not! It's Apples & Oranges. Someday, when theism is dead, what would you say to a theist who wanted to be a doctor, lawyer, teacher, juror, politician? Probably what you would say to someone who interviewed with you for a job who said that they believed in fairies and unicorns!
(March 8, 2017 at 5:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (March 8, 2017 at 4:06 pm)Jehanne Wrote: And, yes, while I admit that I may have overreacted on this one, I still bet that the Dad there in the video did not have a single smoke alarm in that home, and I wondering what his explanation will be for that one! And, so, stay tuned!
"I may have overreacted in this thread, but I'm sure I'm right."
That really doesn't add up, asshole. Your glee says more about you than the gist of this post, anyway.
Fuck you.
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