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Hello Atheists, Agnostic here, and I would love to ask you a question about NDEs
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Hello Atheists, Agnostic here, and I would love to ask you a question about NDEs
Hello everyone,
my name is Vaino. I was raised Roman Catholic. Although I still go to Church and participate in culturally Christian events, I am really an agnostic. I don't exactly know what to believe. I don't want to be too much of a skeptic just yet-- that being said, I am aware that there are many inconsistencies in Christianity, and all faiths for that matter.
My question to you:
Many atheists and agnostics, even some religious people, are skeptical of Near Death Experiences, saying that they are a product of a faulty brain which is deprived of oxygen, blood flow and is essentially confused. I found numerous articles saying that G-Force pilots experience similar visions when they are in flight simulators. This causes me to be somewhat skeptical of NDEs. I would not be surprised if they were the product of a confused brain.
I have also read from some sources which conclude that they are cultural as well. For example, Christians will see Jesus, Hindus will see other religious imagery, etc.
I am willing to accept all of that, but here is what I am confused about. Why is it that there are so many accounts of Christians seeing Jesus, but no accounts (as far as I can tell) that are genuine of an Islamic person encountering Prophet Muhammad? I spoke to a Muslim friend of mine recently who said that many people in the Islamic faith will dream of Prophet Muhammad. Why then is it, that a) there are very few Muslim NDEs to begin with, and b) that you never hear of any of them seeing Muhammad?
There are supposed accounts (by Christians so I am willing to bet that it's biased) of Muslims meeting Jesus, and being told that they are to convert to Christianity. I take these with a grain of salt because Christians tend to tell these stories. However, I am extremely curious to get your opinions/ideas/theories about why Christian NDEs tend to be much more prevalent with religious imagery known to Christians than is the case for Islamic people. 
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RE: Hello Atheists, Agnostic here, and I would love to ask you a question about NDEs
First up.

Christians love to publicise their “experiences" and since most of ys live in the West, where Christianity is dominant, we're far more likely to read about their claims.

I would be willing to state that there are likely as many claims from Muslims on sites written in Arabic.

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RE: Hello Atheists, Agnostic here, and I would love to ask you a question about NDEs
http://www.livescience.com/11010-death-e...ation.html

Quote:Near-Death Experiences Linked to Oxygen Deprivation

By Benjamin Radford, Live Science Contributor | April 19, 2010 04:55am ET
There is no mystery here.
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RE: Hello Atheists, Agnostic here, and I would love to ask you a question about NDEs
@VAINO, why is this so important to you. As a Christian I put this in a place of little importance, it's not necessary to Christianity. Christianity is a relationship with Christ as your savior, if this is part of one's life why even worry about what's on the other side, one should be assured of that reality.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Hello Atheists, Agnostic here, and I would love to ask you a question about NDEs
It only took me a moment to search for "Muslim NDE" and find numerous examples.
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!






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RE: Hello Atheists, Agnostic here, and I would love to ask you a question about NDEs
Islam isn't too keen on pictures of mo last I heard, while jebus (or the 'artist interpretation' of him) are plastered all over the place.

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RE: Hello Atheists, Agnostic here, and I would love to ask you a question about NDEs
Sagan's Dictum pretty much covers my attitude about NDEs.

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RE: Hello Atheists, Agnostic here, and I would love to ask you a question about NDEs
TR;DR

NDE's are not a significant enough phenomenon to be worthy of my consideration. I've filed them away with accounts of crop circles and alien abductions in my loony bin file. There is no aspect of my worldview which is shaped by anything in this file, NDE's most certainly included. I think you'll find the imagery people report in these and other silly stories also telling.





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RE: Hello Atheists, Agnostic here, and I would love to ask you a question about NDEs
Welcome new person. Stick around. Make and intro thread and tell us more about yourself.

For me it's NDE, SchmeNDE. I don't care because no gods exist. All gods are man made and therefore a product of mans mind. Seeing a god vision during an oxygen deprived state should come as no great surprise. Even if they were none religious, they more than likely have been exposed to the concept.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: Hello Atheists, Agnostic here, and I would love to ask you a question about NDEs
Welcome Vaino-Eesti. I hope you like it here. That Christians are more likely to have NDE's where they see Jesus and Muslims are less likely to have NDE's where they see Mohammed is something I would need more than anecdotal evidence for to accept.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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