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RE: just another god hypothetical ...
March 10, 2017 at 12:59 pm
(March 9, 2017 at 11:48 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Has any theists addressed this: If self aware alien life or any alien life is discovered, the abrahamic gods would then become a fallacy?
I've heard this said before but mostly from non believers (in gods, not aliens). I'm not exactly sure what this is based on. Maybe that humans are a special one off?
Anybody?
I seem to remember one time a Christian claiming that each species would essentially have their own Jesus that came down for their salvation, you know, like, a half god, half Klingon but fully god and fully Klingon type of thing.
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RE: just another god hypothetical ...
March 10, 2017 at 1:03 pm
(March 10, 2017 at 12:59 pm)irontiger Wrote: Also, science can not measure outside space and time, therefore, science can not come to any conclusion that a supreme entity does not exist. Also the supreme entity "God" that I am referring to is perhaps superior to the entity you suggested in your post and perhaps your suggested entity in the post may be worshiping a supreme entity that I am referring to. And this supreme entity perhaps has the energy that is needed to sustain life, both ours and the one you posted about. And this energy is not detectable.
Science (more Technology) is helpful but limited too.
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I think what you are missing here is the realm beyond what we can grasp in our current physical state. To assume nothing exists beyond ourselves and what we observe or measure is short sighted.
To assert that something exists which cannot be established is foolish.
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RE: just another god hypothetical ...
March 10, 2017 at 3:08 pm
(March 10, 2017 at 1:22 pm)irontiger Wrote: 1) I did not assert, I stated that there is a strong possibility of a supreme being "God" based on the point that "God" can perhaps be beyond the space and time we are able to observe and that we are not able to grasp it due to our own physical limitations
That is an assertion.
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RE: just another god hypothetical ...
March 10, 2017 at 4:01 pm
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(March 10, 2017 at 12:59 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (March 9, 2017 at 11:48 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Has any theists addressed this: If self aware alien life or any alien life is discovered, the abrahamic gods would then become a fallacy?
I've heard this said before but mostly from non believers (in gods, not aliens). I'm not exactly sure what this is based on. Maybe that humans are a special one off?
Anybody?
I seem to remember one time a Christian claiming that each species would essentially have their own Jesus that came down for their salvation, you know, like, a half god, half Klingon but fully god and fully Klingon type of thing.
There is a jesus for pin worms?
(March 10, 2017 at 1:22 pm)irontiger Wrote: (March 10, 2017 at 1:03 pm)Nonpareil Wrote: To assert that something exists which cannot be established is foolish.
1) I did not assert, I stated that there is a strong possibility of a supreme being "God" based on the point that "God" can perhaps be beyond the space and time we are able to observe and that we are not able to grasp it due to our own physical limitations, and, therefore we can not draw the conclusion non-existence of "God"
2) To conclude that something does not exist when your species has only been here for approx. 200000 years out the billions of years of the universe and just recently having the methods and technology, for argument sake the last 1000 years. to advance your species is very short sighted
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You claim to be a theist. What do you use to draw the conclusion that there is a god? What do you base your "strong possibility" on?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.