Atheists: The NEW go-to movie villian

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

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There's no such thing as bad publicity. See Sarah Palin.

[The Omnissiunt One]

This movie is laughably pathetic. 'Christians happen to have started America'. Lord help us! Actually, bad choice of words. Still, anyone who buys into this crap really doesn't deserve a brain (if they have one).

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

There's no such thing as bad publicity. See Sarah Palin.

I used to believe that and I sort of half-do these days, but does anyone honestly respect Sarah Palin? I mean, I'm sure there are those that do, but I mean does anyone refer to her as anything other than a joke?
Plus, M. Night Shamalon's Avatar: The Last Airbender (and a few other previous movies) recieved a lot of publicity for being a terrible movie. I mean, even if the terrible reviews themselves provide the motivation of more people to go see it, perhaps out of curiosity or some other reason, how is that at all beneficial to Mr. Shamalon or the movie?

I don't honestly see how this'll do anything other than fuel the problems that atheism already has in terms of PR amongst the general public.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

[chatpilot]

TheDarkestOfAngels wrote: I don't honestly see how this'll do anything other than fuel the problems that atheism already has in terms of PR amongst the general public.

My opinion on this matter is Fuck the general public! If it were up to them there would never have been any atheists to begin with, or at least they would have all been relegated to being closet atheists. It's the general public that espouses the nonsense that is religious beliefs, especially here in the Unites States. If they had their way they would be content to go back to the days when blasphemy was not only a sin but a crime punishable by a jail sentence or death.

[Entropist]

Ha! gotta love the stock ominous music when the Evil Atheist comes onscreen. I also have an entourage of growling doublebass and cello players follow me everywhere I go...



"...evil will always triumph because good is dumb."

[krazedkat]

Why can't people get that not all founding fathers were christian! I'm a Canadian and I know more of American history than lots of americans!

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

My opinion on this matter is Fuck the general public! If it were up to them there would never have been any atheists to begin with, or at least they would have all been relegated to being closet atheists. It's the general public that espouses the nonsense that is religious beliefs, especially here in the Unites States. If they had their way they would be content to go back to the days when blasphemy was not only a sin but a crime punishable by a jail sentence or death.

Atheists hold a minority in the United States and, to a lesser extent, around the world but... well... let me explain:

Before I came to the atheistforums, I had never seen Richard Dawkins, read any of his books, or seen him anywhere. I didn't even know what he looked like. I've since used youtube and seen some links and such provided around here and I've seen this man debate and I now understand why, even outside of atheist circles (such as the scientific community), that he's as respected and famous a man as he is.

This is because he not only challenges the religious establishment, but he does so in a manner that is eloquent, incisive, clear, well reasoned, and simple but with a depth that few other orators of lesser skill can accomplish. He and others like him may indeed be why atheism is more prominant in the public eye lately than it has been in decades past.

However, a movie like the one above is precisely the kind of thing that fuels the kind of ignorance that is so prominant in the public circle that it can only force atheism to be an even more poisonous term than it is now - much like how government-run healthcare in the United States "hiliarycare" and "obamacare" are both popular amongst the general public when the actual facts about these things are laid bare while at the same time becomes a very poisonous idea in the eyes of the general public. You'd think these people want the insurance companies to be able to make as much money as they please based off of how many people they can deny coverage to, damn whether or not the rejected is a 12 year old child who needs a new liver.

My point though is that if people see atheism as reasonable and logical, such as how Dawkins portrays our (lack of) ideaology when combined with reasonable skepticism and acceptance of science and knowledge I think it would only help all of us.

THen you have to consider this movie portraying an evil atheist who exists only because he hates god, america, and fun. At that point, that can only hurt us and force more of us to go underground.
I LOVE christmas damn it!

To whatever extent, I do agree that there are some out there who would love to send America back to the Dark Ages when sin, non-christians, and heresey (such as a heliocentric solar system) was solved with a gillotine at worst or excommunication at best. However, I highly doubt that the vast majority of americans or anyone with any sense feels that way, despite the very vocal minority.

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