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RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 15, 2017 at 9:12 pm
(March 15, 2017 at 9:04 pm)Orochi Wrote: Well this tread instant fail there is no such thing as an atheist denominations and deism can't be atheistic
Atheism doesn't need to convince theists . The fact there is no substance to theism stands on it's own
90% of archeology directly contradicts any consistent reading of the bible
Yep.
The question in the OP is flawed from the get go.
So much wrong in only 11 words. OP must be going for some kind of record in willful ignorance.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 15, 2017 at 9:14 pm
(March 15, 2017 at 7:55 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (March 15, 2017 at 7:26 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: I would be interested in hearing 4 or 5 of the archaeological refutations or inaccuracies that you are making reference to. Thank you in advance for sharing.
No thanks.
First of all, I am not a geologist. I'm a lowly network engineer.
They've been talked to death. The fact that you might be able to come up with some ad hoc rationalization you get off some apologetic site, in order to explain them away, is meaningless.
Not to mention, that even though the Bible gets some things right, does not negate the fact that it gets many things wrong. And that is the problem.
I actually did not think you would take the cowards way out; many of your conversations here are well mannered and insightful. I will not offer refutations or rationalization to what you have to offer. I am genuinely interested in hard archaeological inaccuracies you have to offer.
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RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 15, 2017 at 9:16 pm
(March 15, 2017 at 9:14 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: (March 15, 2017 at 7:55 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: No thanks.
First of all, I am not a geologist. I'm a lowly network engineer.
They've been talked to death. The fact that you might be able to come up with some ad hoc rationalization you get off some apologetic site, in order to explain them away, is meaningless.
Not to mention, that even though the Bible gets some things right, does not negate the fact that it gets many things wrong. And that is the problem.
I actually did not think you would take the cowards way out; many of your conversations here are well mannered and insightful. I will not offer refutations or rationalization to what you have to offer. I am genuinely interested in hard archaeological inaccuracies you have to offer.
I decided to post some anyway.
Read the last couple of pages by other posters, and me.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 15, 2017 at 9:17 pm
I am. Thank you. It's this darn tiny phone display and my Shrek sized sausage fingers.
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RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 15, 2017 at 9:18 pm
Why so you can pretend (like everything else your wrong about) it doesn't exist or propose some loopy conspiracy to explain it away
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RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 15, 2017 at 9:21 pm
(March 15, 2017 at 9:04 pm)Orochi Wrote: (March 15, 2017 at 10:18 am)PETE_ROSE Wrote: For this thread let us lump all denominations of atheism, agnosticism, and soft non deistic worldviews into one.
Feel free to state your best argument or compelling reasons.
Well this tread instant fail there is no such thing as an atheist denominations and deism can't be atheistic
Atheism doesn't need to convince theists . The fact there is no substance to theism stands on it's own
True. Theists can round up enough arguments to lend support for believing what they fervently wish to be true, but no where near enough to convince a neutral but reasonably informed individual. Atheists as you say don't need a positive argument. We're out until we're in and no good reason to come in has yet been discovered for we who don't start out wanting to believe in magical stuff.
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RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 16, 2017 at 1:58 am
(March 15, 2017 at 9:14 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: I will not offer refutations or rationalization to what you have to offer. I am genuinely interested in hard archaeological inaccuracies you have to offer.
Can you name one archaeological discovery that proves your god is real?
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RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 16, 2017 at 2:06 am
Quote:Try to knock down theism based on yoga if you can.
Yoga exists. Your silly-assed god doesn't.
Although yoga looks pretty silly unless a really hot chick is doing it.
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RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 16, 2017 at 2:11 am
(March 15, 2017 at 11:06 am)Whateverist Wrote: Limp Rik: Yeah, that would be like trying to clean out a chimney using yoga. I'm sure people would fail again and again there too. So is there anything at all that yoga is good for apart from keeping limber? Nope.
I once tried tiling a kitchen using interpretive dance. It went about as well as you'd expect.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism?
March 16, 2017 at 7:52 am
(March 15, 2017 at 6:53 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: I would flip the question to you sir and ask if in your time machine travels you observed the crucifixion and resurrection would you change your beliefs? I understand you would be forced to acknowledge the truth and evidence you would be confronted with; but would you change your worldview or faith or more specifically your relationship with God?
Sure, if I saw Jesus resurrect I may think that he is some kind of god, but he still would not be worthy of my worshiping him, because in my eyes he would be an evil god who sends earthquakes, viruses of Malaria, dysentery and AIDS; making people (even more little babies) and other beings suffer just because of his whims that would not exist even if he had a shred of morality.
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