Why most arguments for God prove God.

[LastPoet]

If you have a problem with a premise, I can elaborate and explain what is meant

I can only advise you to get a course in formal logic. You can not make ambiguous statements then go back to explain them.

The principle of explosion in informal logic tells us that upon a contradiction, anything can be inferred. In formal logic, RA's are not accepted

[Mystic]

These arguments are all summaries of arguments and premises you guys know the elaboration and what is meant.

The ones that are my own, I've written so much elaboration on other threads.

This is to summarize and go to the point, or else the thread would be lengthy.


As for argument 3, do you believe the following instead:

Are our actions are NOT inherited to us.

If our actions were inherited to us, a perfect judge is not required to cause us to inherit our actions.


I believe the two above are what are irrational.

[masterofpuppets]

1. Premise 1 fails and conclusion does not lead to a god.
2. All premises fail and conclusion is non sequitur.
3. Premise 1 and 2 fail.
4. Ambiguity fallacy.
5. Premise 1 fails and premise 2 is false, conclusion is non sequitur.
6. Ambiguity fallacy and conclusion is non sequitur.
7. Seriously?

[LastPoet]

These arguments are all summaries of arguments and premises you guys know the elaboration and what is meant.

The ones that are my own, I've written so much elaboration on other threads.

This is to summarize and go to the point, or else the thread would be lengthy.


As for argument 3, do you believe the following instead:

Are our actions are NOT inherited to us.

If our actions were inherited to us, a perfect judge is not required to cause us to inherit our actions.


I believe the two above are what are irrational.

You made no point in your previous posts. All you done is making sentences a jumble of words sticked together with no meaning, outside of yourself. The purest notion of being subjective.

[downbeatplumb]

These arguments are all summaries of arguments and premises you guys know the elaboration and what is meant.

The ones that are my own, I've written so much elaboration on other threads.

This is to summarize and go to the point, or else the thread would be lengthy.


As for argument 3, do you believe the following instead:

Are our actions are NOT inherited to us.

If our actions were inherited to us, a perfect judge is not required to cause us to inherit our actions.


I believe the two above are what are irrational.

"Are our actions are NOT inherited to us."

What does that even mean? seriously what?

[Thumpalumpacus]

How can a perfect being create an imperfect world? Shouldn't the actions of perfection result in perfection?

There's no way that any creator god which might exist is perfect. Nature says otherwise.

[Ravenshire]

Mystic, did you wake up this morning and decide to see just how much shit you could fling at the AF walls?!?

[Amarok]

Perfection is subjective and even if it were not there is no reason to believe god is perfect aside simply defining him so

[Minimalist]

I think you are having a crisis of faith, MK.  Are you trying to convince us or yourself.  If us, you're wasting your time.  If yourself, don't let the mullahs know or they will stone the fuck out of you.

You are really fucked up lately.

[Fake Messiah]

If a hypothetical creator can create goodness/morality from nothing, then it would be arbitrary.
If it was arbitrary, it could be anything the Creator wanted it to be.
Morality cannot be anything a hypothetical Creator wants it to be.
Therefore Morality is Eternal.
Morality requires perception.
Therefore Eternal Perceiver of Morality exists."

Morality is proof of god? But what about immoral persons? God wasn't even able to make Muhammad moral being because he bought, sold, captured, and owned slaves. He had sex with minors.

Perfection must exist to be defined (different than fully known).
Perfection is defined.
Therefore Perfection exists.

What perfection? Are humans for instance perfect? Is our planet perfect? Is Moon perfect? Was Muhammad perfect?

Love speaks an eternal exalted language.
That Eternal exalted language has no limits to potential.
All potentials of love must have a basis.
The basis must be highest form of love.

So when two guys love each-other and want to have anal sex it comes from god?