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What is logic?
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 (April 10, 2017 at 9:53 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Shit filled with shit? It's shitception!
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (April 10, 2017 at 9:53 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(April 10, 2017 at 5:08 am)Little Rik Wrote: Well well well Yog, here you reach the end of the road. Well, well Yog the evidence is there but of course you reject it for the simple reason that it would make you feel ashamed.  The chap die as proven by doctors. Now the heart is not sending blood and oxygen to the brain.  The brain now is 100% dead and yet the chap experience something clear, vivid and sharp and even after many many years he-she remember this experience. Even a working brain would not be able to remember in such a details such an experience after so many years yet that happen. Now fools like you and your little mates reject this evidence. What can I say other than dealing with stubborn idiots?  Get real Yog. Wake up and grow up so you can leave the mental sewer. 
Did you know? We may not know everything about how our brains work - especially at the moment of death - because if we REALLY wanted to, we'd have to FUCKING KILL PEOPLE in many different ways AND we don't even know how the brain works in physiological conditions that well. But we're getting there, slowly but surely. Certainly not by making shit up without having enough evidence. It's called basic skepticism, Rik, and if you don't even know the basics of neurobiology (which I definitely assume you don't), you should probably shut the fuck up and educate yourself based on the facts that we manage to find out and corroborate with actual evidence.
Everything aside, though, I'm surprised you still keep this shit going, year after year. Jeez.
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped. Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses. Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder. Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids." (April 11, 2017 at 9:48 am)Lucanus Wrote: Did you know? We may not know everything about how our brains work - especially at the moment of death - because if we REALLY wanted to, we'd have to FUCKING KILL PEOPLE in many different ways AND we don't even know how the brain works in physiological conditions that well. But we're getting there, slowly but surely. Certainly not by making shit up without having enough evidence. It's called basic skepticism, Rik, and if you don't even know the basics of neurobiology (which I definitely assume you don't), you should probably shut the fuck up and educate yourself based on the facts that we manage to find out and corroborate with actual evidence. I tell you something future scientist. If all future scientists will be idiot like you then God save us all. The planet earth will disintegrate. Luckily most scientists are a lot smarter than idiot like you. They understand that when the brain is dead and an experience is remember in such a sharp, clear and vivid way it is the consciousness that take over and if the consciousness take over that means that we never die but fool of your kind  reject this evidence because that would make you feel like a total foolconsidering that for an atheist life end when the body die. Get real fool. 
I like how Little Rik makes it sound like scientists are generally in agreement with him on this matter. What a delusional guy.
If materialism is so useless, why not live like Jesus lived? Give away all of your earthly things and travel the land spreading the word of god, surviving only off the good will of others and sleeping on the forest floor as god intended?
I'll tell you why you won't do that... because material things do give us happiness. Most people are much happier with: food to eat water to drink a car to travel from place to place with a warm home to stay in a soft bed to sleep on hobbies to occupy their time (more often than not, having a hobby means possessing material objects) If materialism is so useless, folks would simply make sure their basic needs were met, then spend the whole day staring at a blank wall. The times when materialistic endeavors becomes useless is when people have some issue in life they're not dealing with and attempt to fill some void by shopping or by falling into that trap where they're trying to "keep up with the Jones," so to speak. If you are inherently unhappy in life, no amount of money or material possessions will help your state of mind until you deal with whatever is bothering you. Material things do bring us happiness though. If you can't spend time alone with yourself in your own head, that's a reflection of something being wrong with you, not material possessions. I, for one, tend to consider myself a materialist, but I'm also a bit of a minimalist, if that makes sense. I love my material possessions but I keep my things to a limited amount. I probably don't own more than 50 things in this world to be completely honest.
“Love is the only bow on Life’s dark cloud. It is the morning and the evening star. It shines upon the babe, and sheds its radiance on the quiet tomb. It is the mother of art, inspirer of poet, patriot and philosopher.
It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love. Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll RE: What is logic?
April 12, 2017 at 2:43 am
(This post was last modified: April 12, 2017 at 2:50 am by Lucanus.)
(April 11, 2017 at 7:07 pm)Little Rik Wrote: Luckily most scientists are a lot smarter than idiot like you. [citation needed] EDIT: and I'm not surprised you started off in this incredibly rude way. Just goes to show that you yourself find that your argument doesn't have any legs to stand on.
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped. Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses. Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder. Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids." 
T T T
T F F F T F F F F What am I?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
RE: What is logic?
April 12, 2017 at 8:30 am
(This post was last modified: April 12, 2017 at 8:43 am by Little Rik.)
(April 12, 2017 at 2:43 am)Lucanus Wrote:(April 11, 2017 at 7:07 pm)Little Rik Wrote: Luckily most scientists are a lot smarter than idiot like you. Me rude? Are you kidding me? You keep on using the word F with me and then you wonder if I reply with idiot and fool. Get real son the time in which people offer the other cheek is over. Now the planet earth is in real danger to die. There is no more time to play stupid games. It is because most people (people like you) think that the material world can offer a solution to everything that we got in this tragic situation of wars, famine, climate changes and all the rest. (April 12, 2017 at 3:18 am)Alex K Wrote: T T T That is very easy son. You are T F K I O F UO I Y L T
Wrong answer
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
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