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My brother who used to be a devout Muslim is now agnostic
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My brother who used to be a devout Muslim is now agnostic
He used to be very religious, and sometimes pressured me to do salat.
  
What made him leave islam was the verse about the creation of the universe and the big bang theory.  
He thought that the big bang was mentioned in the Qur'an. But the book states that "The heavens and the earth have been split from each other, thus the universe was created."  
But according to the big bang theory the skies and the earth did not exist before the big bang, even space and time were seperate.  

One day, he was having a discussion with my parents about islam and how the universe was created he also mentioned that this a scientific error in the Qur'an. My parents being religious, told him that to be a true muslim u have to accept the Qur'an as it is. They got a little upset, from him and felt that he almost infideled.   
Then he told me that I missed the religious debate with my parents. 
Quote:I asked : "What's your claim?"  
He:"The Quran is wrong on the creation of the universe."  
Me:"What are your arguments?"  
He:what i mentioned above.  
Me:"How did they respond?"  
He:"They only responded to me, by saying that this is God's word and must never be questioned"
 


I asked him what morality in Islam?
This was his response:
Quote:Islam is a barbaric and unethical religion, stoning people for adultery, executing queer people and apostates, subjugating women, allowing Pedophilia? This is a hateful ideology.
And people should be free to do whatever they like as long as no harm is done.
Quote:What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

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RE: My brother who used to be a devout Muslim is now agnostic
(20th March 2017, 18:41)Lebneni Murtad Wrote: He thought that the big bang was mentioned in the Qur'an. But the book states that "The heavens and the earth have been split from each other, thus the universe was created."  

Where is that verse located in the Qur'an?
There is reason to believe that there is no god. Atheology is the key to this demonstration. 
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RE: My brother who used to be a devout Muslim is now agnostic
(20th March 2017, 18:53)TheAtheologian Wrote:
(20th March 2017, 18:41)Lebneni Murtad Wrote: He thought that the big bang was mentioned in the Qur'an. But the book states that "The heavens and the earth have been split from each other, thus the universe was created."  

Where is that verse located in the Qur'an?
21:30
Correction, I mean joined together not split.

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Quote:What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

                                                                                                         Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
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RE: My brother who used to be a devout Muslim is now agnostic
Yeah - it was the moon that was split.

Except it wasn't.

Looks like allah fucked that one up, too.

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RE: My brother who used to be a devout Muslim is now agnostic
sounds like the greek and sumerian creation myths.
Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
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Evolution - Adapt or be eaten.
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