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What is up with the disdain Republicans have towards educational institutes?
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RE: What is up with the disdain Republicans have towards educational institutes?
(March 22, 2017 at 8:18 am)Chad32 Wrote:
(March 22, 2017 at 12:37 am)dyresand Wrote: reading that angered me and it also sadden me as well if she only knew what trump care would do to her and her family and millions of  families in the US. All in all healthcare is a right and its  bullshit to bring up the argument of access. The fact is no one should have access to healthcare everyone should already have healthcare and premium insurance should be a option and government mandatory healthcare is a free like every other  first world country.

I agree. I'm not sure why we don't consider healthcare as much a basic need as food, water, and shelter. But we have a big issue with people in power treating poor people with disdain, as they funnel money from the pockets of the poor and middle class into the pockets of the rich.

Republicans screw us over, Democrats refuse to fight back, and they bth work together to squash any third party.

The problem with democrats is Nancy Pelosi, Joe Manchin, Cory Booker  and others that say they are democrats but will fall in line and roll over to republicans.  Like with Bernie and a few other people made a bill to import cheaper medication from Canada hell a good bit of the democrats voted against it. And the ironic thing about it it had Republican support they weren't against cheaper medication so not all republicans are bad but now you have Corey Booker lying on CNN and every news outlet saying he wanted to make sure the drugs are safe. The problem with that statement it's a lie and Canada is really strict when it comes to pharmaceuticals were here it's well.... to throw it out there we have pain pills that are highly addictive and too powerful lets be honest stuff that wouldn't be sold in Canada. The problem is most of the democrats now are just republican light and were at a point now where people are sick and tired of them they decided to start their group called Justice  democrats and their plan is to take seats  in their local districts and areas and work from the ground up to replace them. Democrats these days along with Republicans they are the same just one screws over the poor in the  dark (being democrats) and on out right does it.
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#22
RE: What is up with the disdain Republicans have towards educational institutes?
(March 22, 2017 at 9:26 am)Chad32 Wrote:
(March 22, 2017 at 8:32 am)Brian37 Wrote: Our pop culture unfortunately has had a long history of painting the educated as "nerds" "dorks" "geeks". 

Pink Floyd "We don't need no education".....

Saved By The Bell, had Zack the popular guy and Screech always getting rejected by Lisa.

I can tell you being insecure and sensitive growing up I got bullied myself for not fitting in. 

Even way before I was born "Rebel Without A Cause" depicted a angst ridden teen bucking authority for what? Bullshit chasing a skirt, competing with morons by doing stupid dangerous bullshit. 

America for some stupid fucking reason loves selling ignorance and popularity.

Even the show Big Bang Theory really is a overblown stereotype of the highly educated. Although it does a far better job than shows in the past to convey more acceptance of others.


No, it isn't that Dems refuse to fight back. Our lack of ability to push back didn't happen overnight. It is hard to fight back when you live under 36 years of GOP gerrymandering of our national and state district maps. It also didn't help that democratic voters gave up after Reagan successfully busted the airline unions. We suck at showing up in local and state elections on both even and odd years. Our politicians are hostages and the only way we free them to fight back and give them the power to fight back is to participate and speak out every day and vote in every election every year.

We don't need a third party, we need more participation.

Well people are participating now, and the establishment dems hate them for it. Progressives are getting out, but the DNC isn't listening.

The attitude of blowing up the establishment is exactly why we lost. I am tired of people, not just here, but on other websites pointing fingers. Hillary had her busters and so did Bernie, and look what it got us.  Now if you voted for Bernie in the primaries, and I did too, but ignore that he ended up throwing his support behind Hillary then you are devaluing him. 

I am not buying into any scorched earth tactic. Dems are progressives and to claim we are not is absurd. It is still up to us to pull our party back to the left. You say the DNC isn't listening? Fine, then make them listen. But blowing up the boat because you don't get everything you want suddenly is why we lost. We had too many "all or nothing" voters in both camps.
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RE: What is up with the disdain Republicans have towards educational institutes?
(March 22, 2017 at 9:38 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(March 22, 2017 at 9:26 am)Chad32 Wrote: Well people are participating now, and the establishment dems hate them for it. Progressives are getting out, but the DNC isn't listening.

The attitude of blowing up the establishment is exactly why we lost. I am tired of people, not just here, but on other websites pointing fingers. Hillary had her busters and so did Bernie, and look what it got us.  Now if you voted for Bernie in the primaries, and I did too, but ignore that he ended up throwing his support behind Hillary then you are devaluing him. 

I am not buying into any scorched earth tactic. Dems are progressives and to claim we are not is absurd. It is still up to us to pull our party back to the left. You say the DNC isn't listening? Fine, then make them listen. But blowing up the boat because you don't get everything you want suddenly is why we lost. We had too many "all or nothing" voters in both camps.

The problem with the dems this time around was the people and voter block they were looking at to win. If they really wanted to win they would
pointed  out the elephant in the room and  they could have won. It was the people who were suffering the most being the poor if they reached out to them 
and had policies to make their lives better and fought for 15 dollar minimum wage to bring them out of lower class they could have won.
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#24
RE: What is up with the disdain Republicans have towards educational institutes?
(March 22, 2017 at 10:17 am)dyresand Wrote:
(March 22, 2017 at 9:38 am)Brian37 Wrote: The attitude of blowing up the establishment is exactly why we lost. I am tired of people, not just here, but on other websites pointing fingers. Hillary had her busters and so did Bernie, and look what it got us.  Now if you voted for Bernie in the primaries, and I did too, but ignore that he ended up throwing his support behind Hillary then you are devaluing him. 

I am not buying into any scorched earth tactic. Dems are progressives and to claim we are not is absurd. It is still up to us to pull our party back to the left. You say the DNC isn't listening? Fine, then make them listen. But blowing up the boat because you don't get everything you want suddenly is why we lost. We had too many "all or nothing" voters in both camps.

The problem with the dems this time around was the people and voter block they were looking at to win. If they really wanted to win they would
pointed  out the elephant in the room and  they could have won. It was the people who were suffering the most being the poor if they reached out to them 
and had policies to make their lives better and fought for 15 dollar minimum wage to bring them out of lower class they could have won.

We lost because we rely too much on cities/suburbs/minorities and soccer moms. We lost the rust belt and we don't do enough to expand our map. We will give Trump 8 years if stay divided.
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#25
RE: What is up with the disdain Republicans have towards educational institutes?
(March 22, 2017 at 8:18 am)Chad32 Wrote:
(March 22, 2017 at 12:37 am)dyresand Wrote: reading that angered me and it also sadden me as well if she only knew what trump care would do to her and her family and millions of  families in the US. All in all healthcare is a right and its  bullshit to bring up the argument of access. The fact is no one should have access to healthcare everyone should already have healthcare and premium insurance should be a option and government mandatory healthcare is a free like every other  first world country.

I agree. I'm not sure why we don't consider healthcare as much a basic need as food, water, and shelter. But we have a big issue with people in power treating poor people with disdain, as they funnel money from the pockets of the poor and middle class into the pockets of the rich.

Republicans screw us over, Democrats refuse to fight back, and they bth work together to squash any third party.

It's interesting that you choose food, water and shelter, all of which are controlled by the free market, even in western European countries. I don't really have a point, just thought it was interesting examples.
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#26
RE: What is up with the disdain Republicans have towards educational institutes?
I can at least understand the reasoning behind that. Food, water and shelter are all basic necessities of life.
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RE: What is up with the disdain Republicans have towards educational institutes?
(March 22, 2017 at 11:11 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(March 22, 2017 at 8:18 am)Chad32 Wrote: I agree. I'm not sure why we don't consider healthcare as much a basic need as food, water, and shelter. But we have a big issue with people in power treating poor people with disdain, as they funnel money from the pockets of the poor and middle class into the pockets of the rich.

Republicans screw us over, Democrats refuse to fight back, and they bth work together to squash any third party.

It's interesting that you choose food, water and shelter, all of which are controlled by the free market, even in western European countries. I don't really have a point, just thought it was interesting examples.

That is utter nonsense. Nobody chooses not to eat or drink or have shelter, even homeless people will live under a bridge or an abandon house to get out of the rain/snow or heat. Even they look for food at food charities or beg for money to buy food.

I really hate the bullshit marketing that has been successfully sold about the word "free market". Huge difference between a market with regulations that prevent abuse of consumers, and the free for all market we have now. Market regulations are why insider trading is illegal. Market regulations as they stand now do not do enough to stop things that caused the car/bank/housing crash of Bush. Not even today when we still have Wells Fargo pulling their shit and the CEO only steps down when he should be in jail.

We have too much money writing our laws for everyone which suck the money up and erode the stability of middle class and poor. Nobody is against the private sector, but our climate at the top earners right now has far too much power and is far too abusive and does not do enough to protect consumers.
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RE: What is up with the disdain Republicans have towards educational institutes?
Expenses for institutions of higher learning that increasing far faster than the rate of inflation are going to make those institutions lightning rods for (negative) attention.

I'm not going to assume the remedy for that is obvious, so I'll note that if the rate of increase matched or was exceeded by the average rate of inflation, quite a bit of that (negative) attention would evaporate.
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#29
RE: What is up with the disdain Republicans have towards educational institutes?
(March 22, 2017 at 11:41 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(March 22, 2017 at 11:11 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: It's interesting that you choose food, water and shelter, all of which are controlled by the free market, even in western European countries. I don't really have a point, just thought it was interesting examples.

That is utter nonsense. Nobody chooses not to eat or drink or have shelter, even homeless people will live under a bridge or an abandon house to get out of the rain/snow or heat. Even they look for food at food charities or beg for money to buy food.

I really hate the bullshit marketing that has been successfully sold about the word "free market". Huge difference between a market with regulations that prevent abuse of consumers, and the free for all market we have now. Market regulations are why insider trading is illegal. Market regulations as they stand now do not do enough to stop things that caused the car/bank/housing crash of Bush. Not even today when we still have Wells Fargo pulling their shit and the CEO only steps down when he should be in jail.

We have too much money writing our laws for everyone which suck the money up and erode the stability of middle class and poor. Nobody is against the private sector, but our climate at the top earners right now has far too much power and is far too abusive and does not do enough to protect consumers.

Lol, I say that I don't really have a point just that it was interesting examples. Brian calls my non-point utter bullshit and then angrily spews about banking and wells fargo. I would pay money to see you write without a spell checker.
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#30
RE: What is up with the disdain Republicans have towards educational institutes?
(March 22, 2017 at 12:30 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(March 22, 2017 at 11:41 am)Brian37 Wrote: That is utter nonsense. Nobody chooses not to eat or drink or have shelter, even homeless people will live under a bridge or an abandon house to get out of the rain/snow or heat. Even they look for food at food charities or beg for money to buy food.

I really hate the bullshit marketing that has been successfully sold about the word "free market". Huge difference between a market with regulations that prevent abuse of consumers, and the free for all market we have now. Market regulations are why insider trading is illegal. Market regulations as they stand now do not do enough to stop things that caused the car/bank/housing crash of Bush. Not even today when we still have Wells Fargo pulling their shit and the CEO only steps down when he should be in jail.

We have too much money writing our laws for everyone which suck the money up and erode the stability of middle class and poor. Nobody is against the private sector, but our climate at the top earners right now has far too much power and is far too abusive and does not do enough to protect consumers.

Lol, I say that I don't really have a point just that it was interesting examples. Brian calls my non-point utter bullshit and then angrily spews about banking and wells fargo. I would pay money to see you write without a spell checker.

I'm not the only one angry, and what the fuck is wrong with being angry about abuse of power? Yea I am and so what. Even the economic right voters are angry, they are simply stupidly still supporting the policies that caused the crash. And what the fuck does any of this have to do with my spelling? I suck and? I also don't run a business nor am I posting this for college credits. I do try to catch myself and correct my spelling. But that still doesn't have to do with the fact our pay gap is too big and our decline in America started with Reagan's failed trickle up "don't tax the rich" bullshit.
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