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RE: Your internet privacy is now for sale to the highest bidder in Trumpistan
March 28, 2017 at 8:13 pm
(March 28, 2017 at 8:01 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Solved with a VPN: https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-services-an...17-170304/
Not really, if you consider shifting cost to the consumer so that the cable industry can cash in on a 35-70B annual windfall part of the problem.
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RE: Your internet privacy is now for sale to the highest bidder in Trumpistan
March 29, 2017 at 12:51 am
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(March 28, 2017 at 8:13 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (March 28, 2017 at 8:01 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Solved with a VPN: https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-services-an...17-170304/
Not really, if you consider shifting cost to the consumer so that the cable industry can cash in on a 35-70B annual windfall part of the problem.
Ok, so maybe I should have said a "temporary workaround". I'm not in favor of this law at all, but until its repealed if you value your privacy enough to put a monetary value on it, $40 a year is a pretty small amount to regain it.
I've had a PIA VPN subscription for 2 years now and use it regularly.
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March 29, 2017 at 1:09 am
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I've only ever used Cryptostorm and iPredator.
Been meaning to try PIA at some point, though.
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RE: Your internet privacy is now for sale to the highest bidder in Trumpistan
March 29, 2017 at 2:26 am
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(March 28, 2017 at 4:49 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/28...histories/
Quote:This approval means that whoever you pay to provide you with internet access – Comcast, AT&T, Time Warner Cable, etc – will be able to sell everything they know about your use of the internet to third parties without requiring your approval and without even informing you.
The time for ubiquitous end-to-end encryption is now.
Is it time for me to just delete FB and restrict my online activities to who gives a fuck video games?
This is the worst "immediate" news I've heard from this administration. A lot of the shit they are doing will take time to take effect. This will start fucking people over right away.
What about the millions of people who either have no clue that they need to protect themselves or how to protect themselves?
a LOT of people are about to become consumer products. A new kind of Soylent Green.
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RE: Your internet privacy is now for sale to the highest bidder in Trumpistan
March 29, 2017 at 2:47 am
https://www.privacytools.io/
https://www.torproject.org
https://ssd.eff.org/en
Stay safe, and as someone who has tried to defend Trump in the past, I say resist. Fuck him and every other asshole in his administration.
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RE: Your internet privacy is now for sale to the highest bidder in Trumpistan
March 29, 2017 at 3:22 am
(March 29, 2017 at 2:26 am)Aroura Wrote: (March 28, 2017 at 4:49 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/28...histories/
The time for ubiquitous end-to-end encryption is now.
Is it time for me to just delete FB and restrict my online activities to who gives a fuck video games?
This is the worst "immediate" news I've heard from this administration. A lot of the shit they are doing will take time to take effect. This will start fucking people over right away.
What about the millions of people who either have no clue that they need to protect themselves or how to protect themselves?
a LOT of people are about to become consumer products. A new kind of Soylent Green.
Get rid of your facebook a/c if you value privacy in any case. They collect data on what you post on there, what you see on there, what you type but don't post on there, and finally what else you've open on other tabs while you've faceshit open on there. And that's just what they've been forced to tells what they're collecting.
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RE: Your internet privacy is now for sale to the highest bidder in Trumpistan
March 29, 2017 at 10:33 am
It seems it might be a good idea to explain what information your ISP knows about your browsing habits and what using HTTPS / a VPN does to that.
No VPN
Your IP Address
Suffice to say, your ISP will know your IP address if you are just connecting to the ISP supplied router (i.e. via WiFi) and browsing the Internet. Your ISP gives you your IP address and they have a record of it.
HTTP
If you visit a website that uses HTTP rather than HTTPS, your ISP will know what site you are visiting (e.g. search-engine.com), what URL you are visiting (e.g. search-engine.com/?q=porn), and any data you send to that site (e.g. username, password, comments, etc.)
HTTPS
If you visit websites that use HTTPS (like this one), then your ISP may know the site you are visiting (e.g. secure-search-engine.com) from the initial HTTPS setup (this is more likely that not these days). However they will not know what URL you are visiting (e.g. secure-search-engine.com/?q=porn) or any data that you send to that site (e.g. username, password, comments, etc.). This only applies if your connection remains over HTTPS for the duration of your visit. If any parts of the site use HTTP, your ISP will know where you are.
Using a VPN
Your IP Address
If you use a VPN, your ISP will not know the IP address you are using, because you are effectively connecting through your VPN provider's network and using one of their IPs. If you are using separate devices and one of them is not using the VPN, then your ISP will still know your IP address on that device because again, they gave it to you.
HTTP
If you use a VPN and visit a website that uses HTTP, then your ISP will not know what site you are visiting, what URL you are visiting, or what data you send to that site. However your VPN provider will know all these things.
HTTPS
If you use a VPN and visit a website that uses HTTPS, then like with HTTP over a VPN, your ISP will not know what site you are visiting, what URL you are visiting, or what data you send to that site. Your VPN provider will also not know what URL you are visiting, or what data you send to that site. However your VPN provider may know what site you are visiting.
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RE: Your internet privacy is now for sale to the highest bidder in Trumpistan
March 29, 2017 at 12:29 pm
Ok, the question then becomes 2 fold for me.
Will the VPN providers sell the info? I understand they exist to protect privacy, but will this new law make it possible for them to say one thing and do another?
And secondly, sites like google, FB, and amazon will still be collecting my data for sale, even if I have a VPN, correct?
P.S I rarely post on FB, but I do read my friends posts and articles. I guess it will be time to ditch it and Google and use some other search engine. Are their any that don't collect data? I mean, I'm not doing anything that would seem to matter, but I don't want to become a product unless I give my permission, like when I request to be added to a mailing list.
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RE: Your internet privacy is now for sale to the highest bidder in Trumpistan
March 29, 2017 at 1:01 pm
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(March 29, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Aroura Wrote: Will the VPN providers sell the info? I understand they exist to protect privacy, but will this new law make it possible for them to say one thing and do another?
It depends. VPNs have different rules, some may collect data, some may not. I do not believe this law affects VPN providers, but they may be able to sell your data anyway. I would research VPN providers who do not keep logs (or at least say they don't). Private Internet Access has a court document that states they don't keep logs, which is helpful because it validated what they were saying.
Quote:And secondly, sites like google, FB, and amazon will still be collecting my data for sale, even if I have a VPN, correct?
P.S I rarely post on FB, but I do read my friends posts and articles. I guess it will be time to ditch it and Google and use some other search engine. Are their any that don't collect data? I mean, I'm not doing anything that would seem to matter, but I don't want to become a product unless I give my permission, like when I request to be added to a mailing list.
Google, FB, Amazon, etc will still collect your data, but only when you are using their sites. If you are logged out, they will collect limited data, and especially if you are using a VPN, there might not be an easy way for them to tie you to your account.
Really the main use of a VPN (in this sense) is to hide your IP address from your ISP.
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RE: Your internet privacy is now for sale to the highest bidder in Trumpistan
March 29, 2017 at 1:09 pm
Yo, Divi Tiberio.
What do you know about this?
https://www.torproject.org/
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