Article about clergy who became atheists

[Flavius]

Aside from everyone that argues with MysticKnight in every post known to man, this post is interesting nonetheless, and it lifts some hope in humanity to see people awaken from the illusion they've been forced into their entire lives.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

MK can't conceive of a state where what he hopes is true, isn't true. That makes it impossible to communicate with him.

Just think of all the time and effort he puts himself through coming up with all the flawed arguments he posts here.

And the only purpose they can serve, is to convince him of what he is already convinced of.

No one with a modicum of critical thinking skills would ever be swayed by one of his arguments.

I read of one monk who chanted prayers every second he wasn't eating or drinking. He was afraid he might think something that was contrary to gospel if he did, and thus be damned to hell. MK comes in a close second.

[Cecelia]

If the faith in God could not die, it would not be virtue to keep it.

It is not a virtue to have faith in god, when this God threatens punishment for disbelief and promises reward for belief.  It's not a virtue when intolerance is often--if not always--attached.  Faith in God is not virtuous.  It's self serving. It's the opposite of virtuous.

[Mystic]

If the faith in God could not die, it would not be virtue to keep it.

It is not a virtue to have faith in god, when this God threatens punishment for disbelief and promises reward for belief.  It's not a virtue when intolerance is often--if not always--attached.  Faith in God is not virtuous.  It's self serving. It's the opposite of virtuous.

Wanting paradise is a virtue since it's a place of closeness to God. Also, where do you get the notion that taking care of yourself is wrong? Indeed doing things to take of yourself is most important before one can try to wish well for another person's well-being. You have to have peace of mind to spread peace of mind to others.

And fearing hell is a virtue since it's a place of distance to God.

And indeed the great hope should be love for God and love for God, and greatest fear should be to have hate towards God and hate from God.

May God guide us in the ways that lead to the balanced love we are meant to have, where our love is not mixed with dark intentions but is sincerely for the sake of God. Amen.

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If the faith in God could not die, it would not be virtue to keep it.

If a lack of belief in a god could not die, it would not be reasonable to keep it.  

True, I would say God is really the most volatile belief in that regard.  First, being a God means he ought to be worshiped. Which means we ought to know him. And not only that, but we ought to know him intimately and there has to be paths that lead to greater knowledge of him.  And that needs a guide, a light that shows the way to glorify him accurately. And to know who are the people holding on to this guide, and to be with them, would need proof and signs from God that decisively prove who that guide is and which guides he is associated with to know the teachings of God and come to a proper avenue of God teaching us knowledge.

If all this was not found or his guidance was imperfect in some way, all that would come crumbling down.

So faith in God in his Messengers and his guides is the most falsifiable thing,  one contradiction in the book that is coupled with them and everything falls.

And as we can easily misinterpret the religion and book without pure guides to show us the proper interpretation and teach us the ways of ascending in interpretation and knowledge of the book,   the whole system would fall without true guides from God.

It's the most volatile falsifiable thing and it is a deep trial we all are in. 

Yet the light is the most manifest thing we know, we know it better than ourselves, those who turn away from it's reminder do so because they wish to follow their caprice which is dark form of love that blinds people to the truth.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

What a load of horseshit.

[Mystic]

What a load of horseshit.

Shit is the falsehood and grey (mixed of light and darkness) morality people call to.

The truth is beautiful and doesn't hurt but gives peace.

[chimp3]

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If a lack of belief in a god could not die, it would not be reasonable to keep it.  

True, I would say God is really the most volatile belief in that regard.  First, being a God means he ought to be worshiped. Which means we ought to know him. And not only that, but we ought to know him intimately and there has to be paths that lead to greater knowledge of him.  And that needs a guide, a light that shows the way to glorify him accurately. And to know who are the people holding on to this guide, and to be with them, would need proof and signs from God that decisively prove who that guide is and which guides he is associated with to know the teachings of God and come to a proper avenue of God teaching us knowledge.

If all this was not found or his guidance was imperfect in some way, all that would come crumbling down.

So faith in God in his Messengers and his guides is the most falsifiable thing,  one contradiction in the book that is coupled with them and everything falls.

And as we can easily misinterpret the religion and book without pure guides to show us the proper interpretation and teach us the ways of ascending in interpretation and knowledge of the book,   the whole system would fall without true guides from God.

It's the most volatile falsifiable thing and it is a deep trial we all are in. 

Yet the light is the most manifest thing we know, we know it better than ourselves, those who turn away from it's reminder do so because they wish to follow their caprice which is dark form of love that blinds people to the truth.

Light is a particle called a photon.

[vorlon13]

Pat Robertson HAS to be an atheist.

There is no fucking way he could harbor a particle of sincere belief in Jesus Christ and simultaneously be the scummy son-of-a-bitch we see on TV fleecing old people out of their pennies so he can buy another fucking diamond mine.

If he believed even a jot or tittle, he would KNOW he is going to spend ENTERNITY IN HELL being eaten alive, over and over by unspeakable demons.

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[Gawdzilla Sama]

What a load of horseshit.

Shit is the falsehood and grey (mixed of light and darkness) morality people call to.

The truth is beautiful and doesn't hurt but gives peace.

Do you live in a fortune cookie factory?

[WinterHold]

What a load of horseshit.

Shit is the falsehood and grey (mixed of light and darkness) morality people call to.

The truth is beautiful and doesn't hurt but gives peace.

Shit, I mean dirty boy Mystic; so you curse now?
Glad you learned something new online after decades of stalking and surfing!

ew now I have haunting thoughts of you pooping..
Shiite balls of fire? cut that spicy food!





The smell,,