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Jesus Christ appears in Lebanon!!
#11
RE: Jesus Christ appears in Lebanon!!
(December 23, 2008 at 2:09 pm)Ace Wrote:
Quote:If you cannot see a vision of a man wrapped in a white shroud, with long brown hair speaking through a vision.. then you are blind!

Blind for examining the vid and classing it as nothing more than light reflecting of a wall? I'm just calling it just as I see it. I see light reflecting of the wall and I also see shadows of what looks like a tree. I don't see what your seeing.

Sorry but I dismiss the claim. All I see is energy from the sun being reflected of a solid mass and into the lens of the camera.
But yet the reflection of this light is in the image of Jesus Christ? And this reflection is causing this image to move his mouth?

wow.. i feel deeply saddened for you.

This is further proof that if God revealed himself to you.. you would call it a delusional.

But I can deny you. A delusion cannot be captured on a video camera.

Call Richard Dawkins and tell him "God is not a delusion because he was captured on a cell phone camera."

Now I think you can see the visions that ancient man witnessed. were they really on drugs or insane like most atheists claim?

This video proves atheism is grasping at straws..
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#12
RE: Jesus Christ appears in Lebanon!!
(December 23, 2008 at 2:32 pm)Psalm 23 Wrote:
(December 23, 2008 at 2:09 pm)Ace Wrote:
Quote:If you cannot see a vision of a man wrapped in a white shroud, with long brown hair speaking through a vision.. then you are blind!

Blind for examining the vid and classing it as nothing more than light reflecting of a wall? I'm just calling it just as I see it. I see light reflecting of the wall and I also see shadows of what looks like a tree. I don't see what your seeing.

Sorry but I dismiss the claim. All I see is energy from the sun being reflected of a solid mass and into the lens of the camera.
But yet the reflection of this light is in the image of Jesus Christ? And this reflection is causing this image to move his mouth?

wow.. i feel deeply saddened for you.

This is further proof that if God revealed himself to you.. you would call it a delusional.

But I can deny you. A delusion cannot be captured on a video camera.

Call Richard Dawkins and tell him "God is not a delusion because he was captured on a cell phone camera."

Now I think you can see the visions that ancient man witnessed. were they really on drugs or insane like most atheists claim?

This video proves atheism is grasping at straws..

Mouth moving....oh yes, the leaves of a nearby tree. Something like light and a life form that is tall and covers a good deal of ground that has branches and leaves which will move by the lightest breeze in which can cause a shadow effect on a nearby wall causing some kind of image that only humans can perceive. Now it's just light and a few branches and leaves that blocks some of the light causing a face like image and adding the wind effect, it would look to us as a mouth that moves.

There is a scientific explanation to everything. You are skipping the scientific method for pure superstitions.

Atheism is not grasping at straws, in fact atheism is growing.

The human brain will automatically try to fill in the gaps of anything it perceives. If there is a close like resemblance to a face, the human brain will try to fill in the missing gaps to complete a face. You see it as a face, I see it as branches and leaves blocking the sunlight.

You are going for superstitions, and I'm going for a scientific explanation.Tongue
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#13
RE: Jesus Christ appears in Lebanon!!
First lesson in documentary photography, make sure the object you wanna take a picture of is in focus. So if you wanna take a pic of a tree, focus on it. If you wanna take a pic of a fence, focus on it. It's that easy.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
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#14
RE: Jesus Christ appears in Lebanon!!
Finally ! I saw the guy ! But he's scary, he has no eyes! His head reminds me of the puppet in the Saw movies. And he isn't talking, it's like he is chewing something.

By the way, is there any objective ancient texts describing Jesus accurately ? The common image we have of Jesus Christ is based on the paintings about him from the middle-age/renaissance, right ?
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#15
RE: Jesus Christ appears in Lebanon!!
From the bbc documentary "Son of God," which was broadcast by the British Broadcasting Commission in 2001:

Quote:Starting with the assumption that Jesus resembled a typical peasant from 1st century CE Palestine, Richard Neave, a medical artist retired from the University of Manchester in England, and a team of researchers "started with an Israeli skull dating back to the 1st century. They then used computer programs, clay, simulated skin and their knowledge about the Jewish people of the time to determine the shape of the face, and color of eyes and skin." 2 Mike Fillon followed the research and wrote an article about the portrait in "Popular Mechanics" magazine. 3 He said during a CNN interview that: "There are very strong rabbinical laws in Israel that you cannot tamper with a skull or any bones, so they needed to reconstruct the skull. Using a cat scan, which is very common in hospitals, they were able to recreate the skull precisely and make a cast of it. Then they put small wooden pegs, based on anthropological data, to figure out what the muscle structure and the skin would look like, and so they layered that on using clay-like substances." 4

The result is shown in the left portrait above: a person with abroad peasant's face, dark olive skin, short curly hair and a prominent nose. His height would have been on the order of 5' 1"; he would have weighed about 110 pounds. Alison Galloway, professor of anthropology at the University of California in Santa Cruz , said that: "This [portrait] is probably a lot closer to the truth than the work of many great masters."

[Image: jesusface.jpg]

Quote:He said: "Using archaeological and anatomical science rather than artistic interpretation makes this the most accurate likeness ever created. It isn't the face of Jesus, because we're not working with the skull of Jesus, but it is the departure point for considering what Jesus would have looked like." They guessed at the length of Jesus' hair on the basis of the reference by Paul that "If a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him." They speculate that Paul would not have written this if Jesus Christ had had long hair?
Source: http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcfa.htm
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#16
RE: Jesus Christ appears in Lebanon!!
(December 23, 2008 at 12:14 pm)Psalm 23 Wrote: This image appeared to the people of Lebanon before the Israeli-Lebanon war!!

You can clearly see this image is talking!!

Atheists claim, "Jesus is an illusion of the mind." But how can he be an illusion of a cell phone video camera?

Can you see this image is wrapped in a white Shroud?
Can you see this image speaking?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b-dKa6Qi...re=related

The time has come!
Psalmy you are a wind-up merchant!
HuhA man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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#17
RE: Jesus Christ appears in Lebanon!!
(December 23, 2008 at 2:42 pm)Ace Wrote: Mouth moving....oh yes, the leaves of a nearby tree. Something like light and a life form that is tall and covers a good deal of ground that has branches and leaves which will move by the lightest breeze in which can cause a shadow effect on a nearby wall causing some kind of image that only humans can perceive. Now it's just light and a few branches and leaves that blocks some of the light causing a face like image and adding the wind effect, it would look to us as a mouth that moves.
Ah yes! and this nearby tree, and the sunlight perfectly formed the "American" portrait of the Jewish Messiah??? And the wind blowing through the trees was making "just" his mouth move???? Are you kidding me??!!??

Quote:There is a scientific explanation to everything. You are skipping the scientific method for pure superstitions.
I would love for science to refute this vision of Christ!

Quote:Atheism is not grasping at straws, in fact atheism is growing.
Atheism is growing.. meanwhile Christ is appearing in visions all over the world??!!

Quote:The human brain will automatically try to fill in the gaps of anything it perceives. If there is a close like resemblance to a face, the human brain will try to fill in the missing gaps to complete a face. You see it as a face, I see it as branches and leaves blocking the sunlight.
The human brain will pick up the images that are present. if this image of Jesus was not present.. the brain waves would not detect it. how can the brain detect imaginary images? Huh

Quote:You are going for superstitions, and I'm going for a scientific explanation.
I even have life long atheists emailing me and saying, "Holy sh*t dude, that's amazing!! I'm convinced, and converted!!" so apparently this vision of Jesus has touched the hearts of the non-believers..
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#18
RE: Jesus Christ appears in Lebanon!!
(December 23, 2008 at 2:01 pm)Psalm 23 Wrote: I don't think this vision is a product of video-tampering. I'm not sure the Lebanese people have that sort of technology.
Oh yes...they can't edit videos but they have the technology to film them on mobile phones and upload them to YouTube. I once knew a programmer who lived in Lebanon. He helped make the software behind these forums, so somehow I think they can do it.

Nevertheless, you can create the same effect with trees, light, etc. Also, the figure looks like a man in a robe; I want to know why you are so sure this is Jesus? The figure didn't talk, so how do you know?
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#19
RE: Jesus Christ appears in Lebanon!!
(December 23, 2008 at 5:18 pm)AtheistPhil Wrote: Finally ! I saw the guy ! But he's scary, he has no eyes! His head reminds me of the puppet in the Saw movies. And he isn't talking, it's like he is chewing something.
what is so scary about God?

Quote:By the way, is there any objective ancient texts describing Jesus accurately ? The common image we have of Jesus Christ is based on the paintings about him from the middle-age/renaissance, right ?
no, there are no ancient texts that reveal jesus' identity. don't you think it's supernatural that a vision of the "American" Jesus portrait is appearing in visions all throughout the middle east?
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#20
RE: Jesus Christ appears in Lebanon!!
(December 23, 2008 at 8:16 pm)Psalm 23 Wrote: I even have life long atheists emailing me and saying, "Holy sh*t dude, that's amazing!! I'm convinced, and converted!!" so apparently this vision of Jesus has touched the hearts of the non-believers..
Hey if those atheists really are, so what? There are gullible/stupid/ignorant atheists too. People can be ignorant. But the point is that there is no evidence of the Supernatural.
As I said. Until you have some understanding of what real evidence is - you can't back up your claims.
You need to provide evidence. What you are giving is not evidence.
Evf
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