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Rich Scumbag Wants To Cut Taxes For Rich Scumbags
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RE: Rich Scumbag Wants To Cut Taxes For Rich Scumbags
Minn, I am with you that Trump is a douche. I am also with you that the GOP doesn't give a shit, AS POLITICIANS. 

But his rise didn't happen over night, and our swing to the right, ALSO didn't happen overnight.

Our species unfortunately seems to look for the biggest moron testosterone filled idiot when we feel threatened. It also seems that evolution drives us more to use of force more than it does cooperation.

I see Un as an egotist. I see The Imams who rule Iran, also as egotists. I see Bibi as an egotist. I see Putin as an egotist. And I certainly see Trump as an egotist. 

That is not to say all world leaders have been like that.

Trump is the outcome of 36 years of GOP selling cold war bullshit. The Iranian revolution that lead to it's current theocracy. The Russian revolution that lead to Stalin also, started for the same reason. Fuck too much of the population over, they will look for the biggest guy on the block to "fight" for them. It does not matter if that big guy has  substance, all it has to do is play to enough emotions, enough mass, then you end up with an asshole opportunist like Castro and end up with Cuba.

Yes, Reagan's polices have failed us. And Trump's bullshit is simply more of the same. It still remains as much as I want him out of office like you, none of this really started with him.

On top of calling him out, which I would agree with, we as liberals, have to take the bullshit cold war godless commie narrative way from the right and the top.
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#22
RE: Rich Scumbag Wants To Cut Taxes For Rich Scumbags
(April 27, 2017 at 7:40 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(April 27, 2017 at 7:33 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote: Yes, the real issue is that lots of people have gotten fooled into thinking that a tax on unearned income is a death tax.

The fact at the heart of inheritance tax is that by far the vast majority of people get rich not by the sweat of their own brows (nor even the sweat of other people's brows) but by inheriting the family silver. And in quite a lot of cases that family silver has never been taxed  either as a capital tax or tax on earnings made from the capital. Therefore one of the few ways to ensure that rich people pay at least some taxes is to slap a tax on inherited wealth.

And that is why, also, up until very recently inheritance taxes were popular with most people, because they understood what they were for.

Not fooled, my money was made/earned and taxed (and still is). Sorry, it's double dipping.



I didn't know you were one of the elite 5,300.  You honor us with your presence.   Tongue



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/27/us/po...c=rss&_r=0

Quote:Repealing the estate tax, for example, would affect just 5,300 or so fortunes a year. For 2017, couples can shield up to $11 million of their estates from any taxation, leaving only the largest inheritances subject to taxation. Repealing the estate tax alone would cost an estimated $174.2 billion over a decade, the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center said.


I don't think any of the motherfuckers will be starving to death on the streets.... unlike so many of the poor and formerly middle class!
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#23
RE: Rich Scumbag Wants To Cut Taxes For Rich Scumbags
(April 28, 2017 at 12:14 am)Minimalist Wrote:
(April 27, 2017 at 7:40 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Not fooled, my money was made/earned and taxed (and still is). Sorry, it's double dipping.



I didn't know you were one of the elite 5,300.  You honor us with your presence.   Tongue



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/27/us/po...c=rss&_r=0

Quote:Repealing the estate tax, for example, would affect just 5,300 or so fortunes a year. For 2017, couples can shield up to $11 million of their estates from any taxation, leaving only the largest inheritances subject to taxation. Repealing the estate tax alone would cost an estimated $174.2 billion over a decade, the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center said.


I don't think any of the motherfuckers will be starving to death on the streets.... unlike so many of the poor and formerly middle class!

Naw, my butt is more in a twist over state death taxes.

And it's still double dipping.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#24
RE: Rich Scumbag Wants To Cut Taxes For Rich Scumbags
Trump Tax Plan Would Shift Trillions From U.S. Coffers to the Richest

Quote:WASHINGTON — President Trump’s proposal to slash individual and business taxes and erase a surtax that funds the Affordable Care Act would amount to a multitrillion-dollar shift from federal coffers to America’s richest families and their heirs, setting up a politically fraught battle over how best to use the government’s already strained resources.
The outline that Mr. Trump offered on Wednesday — less a tax overhaul plan than a list of costly cuts with no price tags attached, rushed out by a president staring down his 100-day mark in office — calls for tax reductions for individuals of every income level as well as businesses large and small.
But the vast majority of benefits would accrue to the highest earners and largest holders of wealth, according to economists and analysts, accounting for a lopsided portion of the proposal’s costs.
“The only Americans who are very clear winners under the new system are the wealthiest,” said Edward D. Kleinbard, a law professor at the University of Southern California and former chief of staff of Congress’s Joint Committee on Taxation, which estimates the revenue effects of tax proposals.
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Repealing the estate tax, for example, would affect just 5,300 or so fortunes a year. For 2017, couples can shield up to $11 million of their estates from any taxation, leaving only the largest inheritances subject to taxation. Repealing the estate tax alone would cost an estimated $174.2 billion over a decade, the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center said.
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#25
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(April 28, 2017 at 7:50 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Trump Tax Plan Would Shift Trillions From U.S. Coffers to the Richest

Quote:WASHINGTON — President Trump’s proposal to slash individual and business taxes and erase a surtax that funds the Affordable Care Act would amount to a multitrillion-dollar shift from federal coffers to America’s richest families and their heirs, setting up a politically fraught battle over how best to use the government’s already strained resources.
The outline that Mr. Trump offered on Wednesday — less a tax overhaul plan than a list of costly cuts with no price tags attached, rushed out by a president staring down his 100-day mark in office — calls for tax reductions for individuals of every income level as well as businesses large and small.
But the vast majority of benefits would accrue to the highest earners and largest holders of wealth, according to economists and analysts, accounting for a lopsided portion of the proposal’s costs.
“The only Americans who are very clear winners under the new system are the wealthiest,” said Edward D. Kleinbard, a law professor at the University of Southern California and former chief of staff of Congress’s Joint Committee on Taxation, which estimates the revenue effects of tax proposals.
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Repealing the estate tax, for example, would affect just 5,300 or so fortunes a year. For 2017, couples can shield up to $11 million of their estates from any taxation, leaving only the largest inheritances subject to taxation. Repealing the estate tax alone would cost an estimated $174.2 billion over a decade, the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center said.
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This sucking the money up to the top is global, both friend and foe do this. This is not a political ideology issue, at least not now. You have 62 uber billionaires worldwide with the combined wealth of half the world's population, 3 billion.

This shit has to stop along with fighting climate change. If the world's leaders don't stop this we will end up in WW3 and a nuclear war and when that happens we won't have to worry about other nations, we will be literally killing our neighbors for food if we don't go extinct.
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#26
RE: Rich Scumbag Wants To Cut Taxes For Rich Scumbags
And the US economy grew at a pathetic .7% during the first quarter of this misadministration.
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#27
RE: Rich Scumbag Wants To Cut Taxes For Rich Scumbags
(April 28, 2017 at 9:54 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: And the US economy grew at a pathetic .7% during the first quarter of this misadministration.

Imagine the bubble we'll end up with if the orange asshat gets 8 years.

So if the rich don't pay, who has to make up for it?
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#28
RE: Rich Scumbag Wants To Cut Taxes For Rich Scumbags
If this comes to pass, the GOP is going to have to give up the pretense that they give a fuck about the deficit and national debt - except when a Democrat is in the White House.
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#29
RE: Rich Scumbag Wants To Cut Taxes For Rich Scumbags
(April 28, 2017 at 6:46 am)mh.brewer Wrote:
(April 28, 2017 at 12:14 am)Minimalist Wrote: I didn't know you were one of the elite 5,300.  You honor us with your presence.   Tongue



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/27/us/po...c=rss&_r=0



I don't think any of the motherfuckers will be starving to death on the streets.... unlike so many of the poor and formerly middle class!

Naw, my butt is more in a twist over state death taxes.

And it's still double dipping.

My mom just died, and she left me an egg. Now you'd have more of a case considering the egg she left me has to last me a long time, and stretched out over time, it isn't that much. But if I were making what she left me per year, instead of having to spread it out, I WOULDN'T bitch about it. Now if you are in the middle class you should worry about the tax breaks for the rich because them not paying in over years and decades ADDS to the debt. 

And what the fuck do you mean "double dipping"? You pay taxes on everything moron. Even if you are a stay at home spouse living off the allowance of the sole income, when you buy ANYTHING you pay taxes on that too, so by your bullshit logic, that is double dipping.

This  isn't about middle class or poor. THIS is about the top 1% having way more than they need and not giving a fuck. 

Nope sorry, don't expect me to cry for billionaires. I have yet to see how much I will owe, but I have more right to bitch than a billionaire. What I got has to be spread out, and my bank did the math and that is 30 years if I live that long. I am 50. Even with what I got, I still have to live off a budget. If a billionaire is crying about money, then maybe they need to buy less expensive crap instead of bitching about taxes.

If I can live off a budget and live off less then a billionaire most certainly has no fucking excuse.

I also get fucking tired of the top and the economic right always fucking screaming because we have voting. Either you want voting and political pluralism or you don't, if you do, then that means WE decide what OUR laws are, not one party not one class. Don't like it, move to Somalia and lead a warlord gang and then you can bully everyone with money and power. 

The top are greedy, and dont GIVE A FUCK even about mom and pop business owners, much less workers.
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#30
RE: Rich Scumbag Wants To Cut Taxes For Rich Scumbags
Quote:Naw, my butt is more in a twist over state death taxes.

What does that have to do with the WLB's tax "reform" plan?
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