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RE: Why is the Democratic Party against the only person who could save them?
June 1, 2017 at 12:25 am
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(June 1, 2017 at 12:14 am)dyresand Wrote: The problem now is the democratic party is nothing worth unifying under it's not worth anyone's time same goes for the republicans.
We need a overhaul of the electoral system so that we as united states citizens can vote someone in we like rather than get a repeat of last years election. ^ This post brought to you by someone with exactly zero understanding of the electoral system.
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RE: Why is the Democratic Party against the only person who could save them?
June 1, 2017 at 12:32 am
(May 31, 2017 at 8:45 pm)Chad32 Wrote: (May 31, 2017 at 8:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Bottom line is, until we abandon this idea that we only have two choices ... we'll only have two choices. And they're both bought and paid-for.
Given the amount of voter blaming that happened after this election, I'd say we have a ways to go for that.
Who else to blame?
Big money buys ad-time on networks and online, but in the end it still comes down to who believes what they see. And that points the finger directly at the voters.
Yes, that does indeed mean that we may well be in the whirlpool.
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RE: Why is the Democratic Party against the only person who could save them?
June 1, 2017 at 12:35 am
(May 31, 2017 at 8:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Bottom line is, until we abandon this idea that we only have two choices ... we'll only have two choices. And they're both bought and paid-for.
Excuse me but the republicunts were given 17 choices.... and they picked the craziest motherfucker of the lot.
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RE: Why is the Democratic Party against the only person who could save them?
June 1, 2017 at 12:44 am
(June 1, 2017 at 12:25 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: (June 1, 2017 at 12:14 am)dyresand Wrote: The problem now is the democratic party is nothing worth unifying under it's not worth anyone's time same goes for the republicans.
We need a overhaul of the electoral system so that we as united states citizens can vote someone in we like rather than get a repeat of last years election. ^ This post brought to you by someone with exactly zero understanding of the electoral system.
The whole thing came down to the electoral college is the only real way of anyone becoming president every other part our electoral system such as individual votes don't matter.
You need electorate votes you don't win by getting the majority vote from the general population.
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RE: Why is the Democratic Party against the only person who could save them?
June 1, 2017 at 12:45 am
(June 1, 2017 at 12:44 am)dyresand Wrote: (June 1, 2017 at 12:25 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: ^ This post brought to you by someone with exactly zero understanding of the electoral system. You need electorate votes you don't win by getting the majority vote from the general population.
I rest my case.
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RE: Why is the Democratic Party against the only person who could save them?
June 1, 2017 at 12:59 am
Hey Steel sorry I fell asleep mid post, man! I'll finish up my draft soon tho. On a ton of meds, me. Don't do well with long post rebuttals right now.
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RE: Why is the Democratic Party against the only person who could save them?
June 1, 2017 at 1:18 am
(June 1, 2017 at 12:45 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: (June 1, 2017 at 12:44 am)dyresand Wrote: You need electorate votes you don't win by getting the majority vote from the general population.
I rest my case.
Well, he has a point. The problem with the electoral college is that you have shit states, like Wyoming, with a population of 586,000 getting 3 electoral votes - 2 senators and 1 representative meaning that each elector represents 135,300 people. Meanwhile, California with a population in excess of 39,350,000 gets 55 electoral votes or 1 for every 715, 450 people. None of this one man- one vote shit for us.
But Dy is right. If the popular vote counted we wouldn't be stuck with the WLB right now.
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RE: Why is the Democratic Party against the only person who could save them?
June 1, 2017 at 1:26 am
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(June 1, 2017 at 12:25 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: (June 1, 2017 at 12:14 am)dyresand Wrote: The problem now is the democratic party is nothing worth unifying under it's not worth anyone's time same goes for the republicans.
We need a overhaul of the electoral system so that we as united states citizens can vote someone in we like rather than get a repeat of last years election. ^ This post brought to you by someone with exactly zero understanding of the electoral system.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. As much as I think Dyresand's political opinions are rarely worth a pisshole drilled in a snowbank, I do agree with him that the electoral process needs overhaul. Twice now in the last two decades we've seen a president installed who did not win a simple majority of the vote. Although the Electoral College does not now play the buffer role envisioned when the Constitution was written, it still performs the same function, of undermining the power of the individual vote.
This needs to change.
And yes, I know it has the snowball's chance in hell. /.02
(June 1, 2017 at 12:35 am)Minimalist Wrote: (May 31, 2017 at 8:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Bottom line is, until we abandon this idea that we only have two choices ... we'll only have two choices. And they're both bought and paid-for.
Excuse me but the republicunts were given 17 choices.... and they picked the craziest motherfucker of the lot.
I was speaking in terms of the general elections, and not the primaries, as I'm sure you understood, and ignored.
The voters had choices too. One choice is to abjure both the parties for being beholden to Big Money™. They didn't, they haven't, and nothing will change until they do.
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RE: Why is the Democratic Party against the only person who could save them?
June 1, 2017 at 1:31 am
@Twice now in the last two decades
Both of which being republican candidates. Gosh, it's almost like they're gaming the system or something?
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RE: Why is the Democratic Party against the only person who could save them?
June 1, 2017 at 1:34 am
(June 1, 2017 at 12:45 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: (June 1, 2017 at 12:44 am)dyresand Wrote: You need electorate votes you don't win by getting the majority vote from the general population.
I rest my case.
Bullshit. We've had two instances of popular votes being overridden by EC stratagems in the last 20 years.
Perhaps you need to read a little more about these affairs yourself. Do you need links, bro?
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