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RE: Pedophilia Brain Defect
June 7, 2017 at 7:01 am
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(June 6, 2017 at 10:49 pm)Shell B Wrote: Um, that's about co-morbid disorders, which aren't confusing at all. Are you suggesting they can't tell the difference between depression and seizures? Are you suggesting that they send people to a psychiatrist to treat the seizures? I ask because it's obvious to me that they are sent to the psychiatrist to treat the co-morbid disorder, not the seizures. (Co-morbid means occurring together, not they're both the same thing so intermingled we can't figure it out.)
The seizures and depression are linked together, that's why: Quote: "Depressive, anxiety, attention-deficit, and psychotic disorders are more frequent in patients with epilepsy than in the general population.".
Same with Parkinson's:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4244792/
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RE: Pedophilia Brain Defect
June 7, 2017 at 11:00 am
They are co-morbid. It's not the same disorder. They're not intermingled. They are just occurring at the same time. They might seem intermingled to you, but a team of doctors wouldn't treat them as one and the same. You would see a doc for your neurological disorder and one for the psych issues that go with it.
I have a cousin with epilepsy. She's not depressed at all. Just because it is more common does not mean it is the same pathology. People who have shitty diseases get depressed. It's not surprising at all. I repeat, you do not go to a psychiatrist to treat seizures. A psychiatrist will not provide you with tools to stop or minimize seizures because they can't. It is a neurological condition.
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RE: Pedophilia Brain Defect
June 7, 2017 at 1:10 pm
(June 7, 2017 at 11:00 am)Shell B Wrote: They are co-morbid. It's not the same disorder. They're not intermingled. They are just occurring at the same time. They might seem intermingled to you, but a team of doctors wouldn't treat them as one and the same. You would see a doc for your neurological disorder and one for the psych issues that go with it.
I have a cousin with epilepsy. She's not depressed at all. Just because it is more common does not mean it is the same pathology. People who have shitty diseases get depressed. It's not surprising at all. I repeat, you do not go to a psychiatrist to treat seizures. A psychiatrist will not provide you with tools to stop or minimize seizures because they can't. It is a neurological condition.
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can have the same etiology. That's why I said not always. Co-morbid does not necessarily mean different cause. You seem to be confusing cause with treatment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comorbidity
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687521/
Analogy: If a person has hypertension that causes both cardiovascular and nephrotic disease more than likely that person would see two doctors to treat the comorbidity of the same underlying disease.
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RE: Pedophilia Brain Defect
June 8, 2017 at 9:57 am
You've moved the goalposts. This all started because I said you don't go to a psychiatrist for seizures and you linked something about epilepsy and co-morbid psych problems. Do you people with epilepsy have their seizures treated by psychiatrists or not? You also said that psych and neurological conditions are so intermingled sometimes it's hard to sort out, but now you're saying that patients will see different doctors for the different symptoms, so is it hard to tell what is psych and what is neurological or not? I say no. A doctor can tell the difference between depression symptoms and Parkinsons.
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RE: Pedophilia Brain Defect
June 8, 2017 at 10:21 am
I have not moved goal posts. You took a position, "Psychological and neurological problems are different" I disagreed with it in part and took a alternate position and provided information. You continue to argue that your position is correct without supporting information.
Do you have a problem with other people disagreeing with you? To the point where you can't acknowledge that an alternative is correct?
Or is your issue just with me personally?
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RE: Pedophilia Brain Defect
June 8, 2017 at 1:44 pm
What? Not a drop of this was personal at all until you just said I had a problem with people disagreeing with me. I'm also disagreeing with you, and it appears you all of a sudden have a problem. If you can't debate about something without thinking it's personal, don't take it up with me. Honestly, we've interacted what a handful of times and you've come to the conclusion that I have a personal problem with you?
I did continue to argue that my point was correct. I didn't need to provide any links since everything you have provided didn't support your case. Therefore, I just continued to debate your case. If you continue to think that a psychiatrist can treat seizures, then I'm bored. If you are going to think that I'm only debating my case because I have a personal problem with you, you overestimate how much I even know who you are. If you think I'm debating my case just because I have a problem with people disagreeing with me, you overestimate how much you know who I am. No matter the case, *you* decided to make it personal, so either get back on track or fuck off.
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RE: Pedophilia Brain Defect
June 8, 2017 at 5:37 pm
I personally believe that humans are always born with challenging circumstances; all humans suffer from the inspiration of criminal activity, but also there are mechanisms to help the individual stop from carrying on the act.
In other words; a person might be tempted to rape. But also they can shake it off; they can fight the urge with the rest of features they have in their bodies.
Letting a significant decrease in grey matter control the situation, means that the person just let go, and let the urge take control.
Just like hunger; hunger is proved by experience to appear when no food is consumed. But killing to eat just means that the person got broken by hunger.