Wow, this debate is really interesting guys, but holy shit you guys can get ridiculous.
Ridiculously funny.
Ridiculously funny.
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| Poll: Do you believe in "Free Will"? This poll is closed. |
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| Yes. | 21 | 50.00% | |
| No. | 21 | 50.00% | |
| Total | 42 vote(s) | 100% | |
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"Free Will" Belief/Disbelief Poll
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 RE: "Free Will" Belief/Disbelief Poll
November 5, 2010 at 1:17 pm
(This post was last modified: November 5, 2010 at 1:18 pm by Minimalist.)
Dave's Law of Comparisons:
"He who only believes in the 5 senses to see the world is a physicalist and in denial" 
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari 
Sure I can, as long as I admit my beliefs are ridiculous.
RE: "Free Will" Belief/Disbelief Poll
November 6, 2010 at 2:21 pm
(This post was last modified: November 6, 2010 at 2:22 pm by Minimalist.)
(November 6, 2010 at 1:18 pm)Watson Wrote: Sure I can, as long as I admit my beliefs are ridiculous. That one could be the basis for a whole thread. (November 6, 2010 at 5:12 am)tackattack Wrote: Dave's Law of Comparisons: What are we denying? Fantasy? Hallucination? Wishful-thinking? I'll take that. 
yes and no are two very generalized answers. That implies absolute free well or absolute determinism. There are a range of positions on the argument.
However freedom of choice and action and free well are not necessarily the same thing, and it's important not to conflate the two. If we are talking about freedom of the will itself, as in your desires, wants, etc, no. In the words of Arthur Schopenhauer, "A man can do what we wants, but not want what he wants". My actions are free in the sense that if my will compels me to type these words, there is nothing prohibiting the action at the moment. I can't help that I wanted to respond to this thread, however.  Quote:Course we're free to choose otherwise that would suggest there was some 'planner' behind everything, which there is no proof for. OK,it implies (suggests) but does not infer. (conclude) An implication is only part of the reasoning process. Evidence is needed for an inference.. My position is one pf psychological determinism. That neither implies nor infers a planner. As far as I'm aware,the Free Will/Determinism dichotomy remains, as neither position has been proved or falsified.  (November 6, 2010 at 5:12 am)tackattack Wrote: Dave's Law of Comparisons: TheVOID's law of claimants: "He who can't demonstrate the existence of a sense yet asserts those who don't believe are in denial is an asshole"
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"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari  RE: "Free Will" Belief/Disbelief Poll
November 7, 2010 at 10:27 am
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2010 at 10:29 am by Edwardo Piet.)
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