Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth

[Minimalist]

Gee.  I wonder where we got the idea that you are some sort of religious fanatic?  Maybe its one of those prophecies, huh?

[rjh4 is back]

Gee.  I wonder where we got the idea that you are some sort of religious fanatic?  Maybe its one of those prophecies, huh?

What does that have to do with anything I said? Being willing NOT to talk about God here makes me a religious fanatic? You and Brian seem to just enjoy saying things without any relevance to what others say. I don't get it.

[brewer]

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Of all of the god fantasy delusions out there why do you believe in this one (bible/abrahamic)? Why do you need me/us to give you some measure of validity to your belief? What actual evidence do you have that might lend some credence to the belief. (please don't say the bible, that's not evidence)

I have zero confidence in your chemical engineer claim. Is this another fantasy?

Assuming you are asking why I believe in the Biblical God: Because such a presupposition logically provide an explanation for things like knowledge, logic, and morals whereas other positions do not (they are internally consistent).

Second question answer: I don't. One of the things I come here for is to see what kind of arguments others might provide against my position. So far...none have been forthcoming that show my presuppositions lead to illogical conclusions.

Third question answer: The internal logical consistency of the position as compared to other positions.

If you don't believe I have a Chemical Engineering degree... oh well. Similarly, I have zero confidence that you can explain how life can come from non-live via naturalistic organic chemistry mechanisms. Is this your fantasy?

There is no logic to your presupposition, only fantasy. The nice thing about fantasy is you get to make it conform to what ever you need. Good job!

Second: Tough to argue against a fantasy except to keep pointing out that it's only a fantasy. Still waiting for some proof but won't hold my breath.

Third: What logical consistency? 

I never said I have an explanation so no fantasy. I just said no one knows YET and also said it does not require a creator fantasy to make me feel comfortable. Apparently you need the fantasy.

[rjh4 is back]

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Assuming you are asking why I believe in the Biblical God: Because such a presupposition logically provide an explanation for things like knowledge, logic, and morals whereas other positions do not (they are internally consistent).

Second question answer: I don't. One of the things I come here for is to see what kind of arguments others might provide against my position. So far...none have been forthcoming that show my presuppositions lead to illogical conclusions.

Third question answer: The internal logical consistency of the position as compared to other positions.

If you don't believe I have a Chemical Engineering degree... oh well. Similarly, I have zero confidence that you can explain how life can come from non-live via naturalistic organic chemistry mechanisms. Is this your fantasy?

There is no logic to your presupposition, only fantasy. The nice thing about fantasy is you get to make it conform to what ever you need. Good job!

Second: Tough to argue against a fantasy except to keep pointing out that it's only a fantasy. Still waiting for some proof but won't hold my breath.

Third: What logical consistency? 

I never said I have an explanation so no fantasy. I just said no one knows YET and also said it does not require a creator fantasy to make me feel comfortable. Apparently you need the fantasy.

Maybe you should bone up on what presuppositions are. Everyone has them, even if they don't recognize what they are. Presuppositions are taken for granted...the starting point to argue from.

[brewer]

Maybe you should bone up on what presuppositions are. Everyone has them, even if they don't recognize what they are. Presuppositions are taken for granted...the starting point to argue from.

Why should I take your fantasy for granted? It's a non starter for a discussion.

Let's try this, Superman is real, OK, go.

[Jackie]

[rjh4 is back]

Maybe you should bone up on what presuppositions are. Everyone has them, even if they don't recognize what they are. Presuppositions are taken for granted...the starting point to argue from.

Why should I take your fantasy for granted? It's a non starter for a discussion.

Let's try this, Superman is real, OK, go.

Why don't you man up now and put forward what your presuppositions are? Or are you afraid as it might make you feel uncomfortable for someone else to evaluate your line of thinking? So instead...you put forth nonsense like "Superman is real, OK, go". How does one provide an explanation of where the laws of logic come from with Superman as your presupposition? Etc, Etc.  There you go. Now...why don't you look real deep into yourself and explain what yours really are?

You seem too content just to sit immersed with those who agree with you instead of trying to actually understand another point of view. You can say my presuppositions are a non-starter for you and never go through the mental exercise to determine if it is a logically consistent position to see where I am coming from. That is your prerogative. As for me, I like to see how others think as it helps me hone my own position.

[The Valkyrie]

Maybe you should bone up on what presuppositions are. Everyone has them, even if they don't recognize what they are. Presuppositions are taken for granted...the starting point to argue from.

Why should I take your fantasy for granted? It's a non starter for a discussion.

Let's try this, Superman is real, OK, go.

Superman is real?

THat's the most ridiculous thing I have read apart from Abrahamic claims.

Everyone knows Spiderman is real, though.

[rjh4 is back]

[Jackie]