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Islam is not a Religion, but a.....
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RE: Islam is not a Religion, but a.....
(June 22, 2017 at 10:57 pm)Hammok Man Wrote: I am curious as to how Islamic indroctronation is different from Christian indoctrination in the US.

I was raised catholic, was sent to catholic schools, attended mass religiously (ha) but  quit drinking the cool aid, and so did many others.

Is it because the west is more tolerant than the Muslim world?

There are extreamist Christian's in the US and other places, but they are not creating near the havoc s thier Muslim counterparts.

Islam is a great example of what can happen when religion is allowed to grow unchecked.

or maybe it's the other way round ?

Christianity is a great example of what can happen when religion is allowed to sink into impiety
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RE: Islam is not a Religion, but a.....
The difference between Christianity and Islam in the 21st Century is secularism.

In terms of the moral values they promote, they are as good as the same culture; sexual repression, strong traditional family code, extremely conservative views about women, war-mongering tendecies, sensitive snowflake God.

The difference is that Christianity has been through 500 years of secular enlightenment. This is why the extent of Christianity's influence these days is a few blubbering Republicans and some breakaway cultists holding "God hates fags" signs.

Islam has not been through this process. It still holds state power in several countries, some of which export particularly draconion schools of Islamic "thought" into other countries, through investment into mosques and Islamic faith schools. The religion is still incredibly politicised, and behaves the way Christianity used to in Medieval Europe. Until it is de-politicised, we're going to keep seeing horribly conservative ideas not being fringe among Muslims, we'll keep seeing oppression masquerading as "culture", and we'll keep seeing terror.

I think it also helps that the central prophet of Christianity is a pot-smoking hippy rather than a pedophile warlord. That doesn't mean a great deal though, there's enough horrible in Christian scripture to make it a terrible religion given power.
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