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Why are the Abraham religions so interested in controlling people sexually
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RE: Why are the Abraham religions so interested in controlling people sexually
(June 20, 2017 at 12:00 am)Industrial Lad Wrote:
(June 19, 2017 at 11:50 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: It's like he's imaginary or something...

More like an invisible space wizard. But he's really real. Believe me. Tremendous.

Let's hope Harry Potter gets him.
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RE: Why are the Abraham religions so interested in controlling people sexually
(June 19, 2017 at 11:35 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: I think perhaps the intent of restriction of masturbation is to maximize marriages and birthrates by making it as miserable as possible to be unmarried. They want as many  Christians/Mormons/Muslims as possible.

Either that or god has no idea that not climaxing for an extended period of time gets uncomfortable. He must have lost the specs for human biological functioning somewhere.
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Perhaps they should just freeze and store their sperm for future use? lmao jk

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When it comes to traditional religious views on sex there's things I agree with and things I disagree with.

When it comes to homosexuality I don't care what anyone else does that's with consent.  So I don't agree with any sort of prejudice against homosexuals.

I think you're right in the original post about making masturbation forbidden messes people up mentally. 

If  you haven't got with anyone yet and you're not cumming in any way shape or form you're brain's just going to be clouded with sex.  

But I do agree with general conservative ideas about the effectiveness of a traditional family unit.  And being conservative about sexual relations.  

But I say this as someone who's been very, not conservative with sex in my 20s and early 30s.  At the age of 32 I now think it's better for me, better for my daughter and everyone else if I stick with the mother of my daughter who I do like and who I did get to know a lot before I had sex with her anyway.
I don't think having lots of sexual partners is a wise lifestyle choice, with STDs that aren't stopped by condoms, condoms that split, the very harsh temptation to just not use one that always comes about. 
Right now I feel like I can stick to a lifestyle with less sexual partners, see how long it lasts.


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RE: Why are the Abraham religions so interested in controlling people sexually
(June 19, 2017 at 11:35 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: I think perhaps the intent of restriction of masturbation is to maximize marriages and birthrates by making it as miserable as possible to be unmarried. They want as many  Christians/Mormons/Muslims as possible.

Either that or god has no idea that not climaxing for an extended period of time gets uncomfortable. He must have lost the specs for human biological functioning somewhere.
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This here. I imagine it was in general a way of controlling the population.

But I may have missed something, because I see theologians engage in mental masturbation all the time!
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RE: Why are the Abraham religions so interested in controlling people sexually
(June 19, 2017 at 12:57 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(June 19, 2017 at 12:03 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: Seems this is one of the most common things Abrahamic religions like to restrict. But, why? I grew up Mormon, and all I can say is that it's very restrictive when it comes to this sort of thing. Like the whole Anti-Porn thing. I remember growing up being taught how evil porn apparently way. The typical talking points like "it's evil" or "it will destroy your life".  If you want to at least try to go without watching porn than go for it. However, anyone who says they have never done that is lying. I remember when I was 14 I my Dad walked in one me jerking off. It was morning and I did not lock my door [really stupid move]. But I remember how much I was shamed for it. My parents acted like I just murdered people. My Dad forced me to go talk to my bishop about it and what not. However, at that age I fell for the lie that religion sells you. You know, the one where you will go to hell if you don't "obey God" or some shit like that. I honestly think when you suppress someone in some fields such as sexual exploration there is a likelihood that person is going to be more fucked up.

I am honestly just glad I am agnostic turning atheist and not some religious person anymore. Well, I mostly just like to sleep in on Sundays. lol

However, it sort of sucks because right now I am home from school for the Summer. I have my computer in my bedroom [I know it's a fucking miracle I can do that] but if I close my door during the day my parents will all of the sudden be "concerned" that I'm doing something "bad". lol Maybe I just want some privacy? I am 23 after all, so I'm pretty sure I can look out for myself. 

It will be nice when I graduate in a year and officially move out. [I sort of have already, but not fully]

I don't get why young men today are more interested in jacking off to porn than in really having sex with a live woman.
I don't know if the data exists, but I'm pretty sure if you surveyed 10,000 young men and asked then whether they'd rather masturbate or engage in sexual intercourse, the vast majority would choose the latter...

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RE: Why are the Abraham religions so interested in controlling people sexually
(June 20, 2017 at 8:08 am)Aegon Wrote:
(June 19, 2017 at 12:57 pm)alpha male Wrote: I don't get why young men today are more interested in jacking off to porn than in really having sex with a live woman.
I don't know if the data exists, but I'm pretty sure if you surveyed 10,000 young men and asked then whether they'd rather masturbate or engage in sexual intercourse, the vast majority would choose the latter...

Just answering a survey question? Probably. Actually learning how to relate to women in order to have a steady supply of sex? That doesn't seem to be happening as much lately.
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Personally dealing with women is a hassle I'd rather not go through. I feel no strong desire to have children, and don't feel like paying for sex, so a hand job does fine for when I need that stress relief.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

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http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: Why are the Abraham religions so interested in controlling people sexually
I read somewhere (not sure where) that the big reason the Israelites latched onto sexual sin was because it was a convenient way of universalising sin, since the vast majority of us have sexual thoughts, and the Egyptians (whom they had apparently just escaped from, if you believe the Exodus account) had sex as such a big part of their culture that Ancient Egyptian didn't even have a word for "virgin." And, of course, since Christianity and Islam were offshoots of Judaism, it only makes sense that they would inherit that cultural baggage.
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yet even with Scriptural concordance, modern era US Christians eschew regulating menstruation from and in accordance with a Godly viewpoint . . . .
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RE: Why are the Abraham religions so interested in controlling people sexually
(June 20, 2017 at 9:24 am)alpha male Wrote:
(June 20, 2017 at 8:08 am)Aegon Wrote: I don't know if the data exists, but I'm pretty sure if you surveyed 10,000 young men and asked then whether they'd rather masturbate or engage in sexual intercourse, the vast majority would choose the latter...

Just answering a survey question? Probably. Actually learning how to relate to women in order to have a steady supply of sex? That doesn't seem to be happening as much lately.

Young men of every generation suck at getting laid. What makes you think they've gotten more awkward around women?
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