Typical theists versus typical atheists

[KerimF]

I have no reason not to agree with you on all what you kindly presented.
In your opinion, which countries or continents will be hit by the Islamist Terror (or alike) in the 20’s of this century?

In every great world’s game, there are winners and losers. The losers, in the today’s long ‘World Terror War’ that was launched very clearly on 9/11/2001, are obvious; they are the ordinary civilians/citizens anywhere on the planet. But perhaps we live an exception in human history and there are no big winners behind this international long war against civilians.

Anyway, I personally will not be surprised if the big winners from destroying Europe in WW2 planned (actually their present generation) for its re-destruction, now by Terror, proven being unbeatable. But they had to spread this terror first in many countries around Europe in order to isolate its European civilians from fleeing south or east, when their turn will come. Now, the terror wars that were launched since year 2011 in north-Africa then Middle East will have to go on for another 4 years as planned.

I wish I am wrong but the European civilians will not be the last victims of the diabolic series ‘War on Terror’ in which all systems in the world (playing pro or anti, left or right, capitalist or socialist... etc.) had/have to be involved in covering up the terrorist crimes against their civilians (starting from its first episode). So I wish you will have a long life to witness in the future all what I am saying here... that sounds now non-sense, if not idiotic

I consider the follow-up to be largely irrelevant. Islam isn't the only threat to peace and civility in the world and it needs to go just as much as Christianity and any other irrational belief that encourages self-deception and all that it invites. That many majority-Musim countries are sitting on quite a bit of petrol is probably the only reason the entire thing hasn't faded into obscurity. Unfortunately while most of the believers who do present a genuine threat are victims themselves of this psychological abuse, because they have become agents of their delusion, those of us in the rational camp have no choice but to regard them as enemies in order to survive. It's like how everyone in the Matrix is unaware they've been enslaved but are so dependent upon it that they'll invite an Agent to take over their body to stamp out threats to it; you don't have any alternative but to eliminate them, there's just no saving them.

If there is a war on terror it is as ill-defined and ill-fought as the war on drugs or poverty. Even calling it what it should be, a war on religion, would be counter-intuitive because then even the pussies will feel threatened and get all up in arms. So there's no easy solution to any of this. All we can do is let rationalist voices be heard every time some dumb shit blows themselves up or lets their kid die of a perfectly treatable illness and say, "We've said it all along! This is what your religion is! Wake the fuck up!" Some people hear it, occasionally. It's all we can reasonably do. Until the numbers start getting more even there's little else we can do; politically, being an 'out' atheist is a death wish. When we're the most reviled group compared to an organization that shuffles around pedophiles to keep them from being prosecuted, you can't possibly look at the world and see anything but darkness.

One of the crucial questions is:
How does a person recognize or define 'his enemy'?

When I was rather young, I had to join the military service for about 2 years. Being an engineer, I do it as an officer though of the lowest rank.
In the first training session on guns, I refused holding one. They told me: "You have to know how to use a gun. This helps you defend yourself if attacked by an enemy". "But I have no enemy in my life" I replied. They went on saying: "You may not have an enemy, but your country may be attacked by enemies anytime". I asked them: " What do you mean by enemies?". Their answer was: "Your enemies are those who will impose their will on you". I re-asked them with a smile: "Do you mean they will do as you are doing to me now?". They laughed while going away and I wasn't asked anymore to attend such training.

On the other hand, before March 2011, I had an atheist educated friend (my age) in UK who was interested in electronics as a hobby. We used exchanging ideas, projects and solutions. But soon after his British government joined the US administration against Syria, he cleverly avoided me as if we have to be enemies too just because the men on power of our two countries were instructed to play so (actually to flourish as usual some international businesses; mainly of the military and energy ones).
I mean; if a British old man felt the need to choose his friends and enemies according to what he hears on news, how could I be surprised if young men of any nationality or religion feel the need to follow their leaders?

By the way, all Islamist top leaders in the world, with no exception, had/have no choice but to submit to the top producers and directors of the 'War on Terror/Islam' series. To clarify this point, let us supposed there was a person who is proud for knowing that his father is a good loving man. Then, another person came with videos to prove him that his father gave the green light to massacre thousands of innocent civilians because of jealousy (or any other reason).
[1] If the son who also claims being a good loving person, believed that the videos are genuine, he would certainly reject totally the previous image of his father from his life.
[2] If the son is sure of what he knows about his father, he would be certain that the videos are fake. Also he would not sleep well till he uncover all the tricks that let the videos look as real and true.
None of the powerful/rich Islamist leaders (starting from those in Saudi Arabia and Iran) did react as in case [1] or [2]. They didn't mind that the US administration proved by clear videos that those who planned and committed the 9/11 attacks are inspired/guided by their god, Allah. I don't think there is an Islamist blasphemy greater than accusing Allah of being a mass killer and ignorant at the same time. Allah was ignorant of the USA rules which give more legitimate rights and incomes to the US men on power anytime some American civilians are attacked. So, naturally, the White House won the Jackpot, the Presidential Veto Right, when another plane hit the second WTC tower as predicted by President Bush in his short speech (addressed to the nation from a school, a few minutes after the first crash). I am not imagining things that all systems, political and religious as well, are involved, directly or indirectly, in the terror against their men on bottom (no matter what their nationalities and religions are).
Don't you know that, after many years of diplomatic boycott, a USA ambassador was welcomed in Damascus, one month before Obama accused the Syrian president of being people's killer? Even after this big accusation, our dear ambassador found his safe way from Damascus to Hama city in which he joined the first line of a protest against the government. This was broadcasted live on TV so that most Syrians could see. Obviously, he also found his safe way back to the capital, Damascus, where he had several meetings with members of the Syrian high class (accused of dictatorship by his system), as if he did nothing serious in Hama. This is one of many comedies that the today's politics (of the New World Order) can produce anytime anywhere. So I wasn't surprised when I noticed that all sorts of national forces were withdrawn from my city Aleppo to allow thousands of foreign armed mercenaries (coming via Turkey and Iraq) to occupy about half of the city. My apartment is located about 100m from the East/West hot line. I was fortunate for being behind a big new building which prevented, for many years, the mortars or alike, launched from the east almost daily, from hitting my place. About one month only was needed for half of my city to be occupied by long dark beards exported from not less than 50 countries. But its liberation took about 50 months; after destroying most of it. This scenario is played in the Iraqi city, Mussel, and can be played rather easily in any other city to be destroyed in the name of terror (the terror that will last, as planned and declared, for many decades).

Yes, by dividing people into different religions and sects, also into political systems and parties, spreading terror against billions of civilians and justifying it via our monitors became natural more than spreading peace and love

Kerim

[The Grand Nudger]

One of the crucial questions is:
How does a person recognize or define 'his enemy'?

Easy.

Through the foe, to the objective, to victory over all.

Ergo, anyone who stands between here and there.  You're welcome. Here, let a wise man explain it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEuU64Zt4B0

[Astonished]

One of the crucial questions is:
How does a person recognize or define 'his enemy'?

Easy.

Through the foe, to the objective, to victory over all.

Ergo, anyone who stands between here and there.  You're welcome.  Here, let a wise man explain it.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEuU64Zt4B0

Thanks for fielding that one, there's no way I was going to waste my time reading or responding to what looked like nothing more than an anecdote that dense or what looks like cooked up propaganda that supports a position I don't agree with.

[Succubus]

When I was rather young, I had to join the military service for about 2 years. Being an engineer, I do it as an officer though of the lowest rank.
In the first training session on guns, I refused holding one. They told me: "You have to know how to use a gun. This helps you defend yourself if attacked by an enemy". "But I have no enemy in my life" I replied. They went on saying: "You may not have an enemy, but your country may be attacked by enemies anytime". I asked them: " What do you mean by enemies?". Their answer was: "Your enemies are those who will impose their will on you". I re-asked them with a smile: "Do you mean they will do as you are doing to me now?". They laughed while going away and I wasn't asked anymore to attend such training.

Yet another variation on the atheist professor story.

[Astonished]

And such naivete that I can't believe I took him seriously for even a microsecond.

[KerimF]

And such naivete that I can't believe I took him seriously for even a microsecond.

After all, one has no choice but to believe what the instructions embedded in his DNA allowed him to.
So, I wish you have always the chance to live with those whom you can take seriously for life.

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One of the crucial questions is:
How does a person recognize or define 'his enemy'?

Easy.

Through the foe, to the objective, to victory over all.

Ergo, anyone who stands between here and there.  You're welcome.  Here, let a wise man explain it.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEuU64Zt4B0

Sorry, I am here to communicate with persons and not to watch youtube or alike.
 
You gave me the impression that the man on youtube is wiser than you.
If this is the case, how did you know he is a real wise man?
If it is not, why don't you explain what you have in mind here?

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Easy.

Through the foe, to the objective, to victory over all.

Ergo, anyone who stands between here and there.  You're welcome.  Here, let a wise man explain it.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEuU64Zt4B0

Thanks for fielding that one, there's no way I was going to waste my time reading or responding to what looked like nothing more than an anecdote that dense or what looks like cooked up propaganda that supports a position I don't agree with.

At least now, you can't blame those whom you don't agree with for seeing what you present them as being "cooked up propaganda that supports a position they don't agree with".

But, may I ask you a favour. If you meet (or will meet) someone (in your environment/internet or heard of on your TV monitor) from whom you heard even 25% of what you hear from me exactly, I wish you help me meet him or know about him in the least.

Meanwhile, thank you for seeing me as one-man propaganda.

Real propaganda need hundreds if not thousands of deceivers supported by powerful systems and funded with billions of dollars on these days (not just millions). The best example is the endless daily series 'War on Terror'. In its 1st episode, people around the world are made to believe that ignorant insane brains planned the silly attacks (against civilians) just to help their so-called enemies, the men on power of their innocent victims, win, on 9/11/2001, their legitimate Jackpot (starting from the Presidential Veto Right.... followed by various national financial/security crises claimed being natural). Fortunately, most people have short memory which is better for their sanity or they are wise enough to play the ignorant.

[The Grand Nudger]

Sorry, I am here to communicate with persons and not to watch youtube or alike.
 
You gave me the impression that the man on youtube is wiser than you.
If this is the case, how did you know he is a real wise man?
If it is not, why don't you explain what you have in mind here?

Oh, is that why you're here? Trololololololololol. I'm sorry I shat on your story about being a modern day guru. You know what happens in any basic anywhere in the world where you refuse to hold a gun? You get fucked up. Joe aint got no time for a smartass, and you're no officer..but go ahead, lie to us some more.

[Whateverist]

Looks like your Troll is getting a bit snippy. Don't worry. He'll be back. He's like one of those Cleaner Wras fish. There is something we're sloughing off that he likes to eat. Besides, our souls aren't going to save themselves, you know?

[KerimF]

Sorry, I am here to communicate with persons and not to watch youtube or alike.
 
You gave me the impression that the man on youtube is wiser than you.
If this is the case, how did you know he is a real wise man?
If it is not, why don't you explain what you have in mind here?

Oh, is that why you're here? Trololololololololol.  I'm sorry I shat on your story about being a modern day guru.  You know what happens in any basic anywhere in the world where you refuse to hold a gun?  You get fucked up.  Joe aint got no time for a smartass, and you're no officer..but go ahead, lie to us some more.

Now, you tell me that if I acted as a natural wild animal, as all humans who are born of flesh only should do, my story would sound true to you.

After all, I heard that almost all Americans are proud for being free to have guns for self-protection.
Fortunately, I was born in Aleppo-Syria in which people, in general, don't need to have such freedom.
I bet you didn't hear of Syria till Obama was instructed to play again the World's Supreme Judge by discovering in it another evil superman (called a dictator in Hollywood movies); as Bush discovered one in Iraq and also saved its people by helping them live, since then, the terror of Al-Qaeda (supposed being anti-Americans, not anti-Iraqis).

Who am I in comparison to the best Americans, Bush, Obama and Trump for a few, who were elected democratically for presidency by the free people in USA?
Should a rational man as I am be surprised if a faithful American believes there is no one outside America who can be honest and sincere more than his great presidents?

In brief, your reaction is natural and I thank you for being sincere.

[The Grand Nudger]

Now, you tell me that if I acted as a natural wild animal, as all humans who are born of flesh only should do, my story would sound true to you.

After all, I heard that almost all Americans are proud for being free to have guns for self-protection.
Fortunately, I was born in Aleppo-Syria in which people, in general, don't need to have such freedom.

Uh-huh, that bastion of safety and bullet free zone, the peaceful earthly paradise..of Aleppo.  Seems like the place gunned up awfully quick to me.  

I bet you didn't hear of Syria till Obama was instructed to play again the World's Supreme Judge by discovering in it another evil superman (called a dictator in Hollywood movies); as Bush discovered one in Iraq and also saved its people by helping them live, since then, the terror of Al-Qaeda (supposed being anti-Americans, not anti-Iraqis).

So, uh...Obama Did It™...hmn, where have I heard that before.............

Who am I in comparison to the best Americans, Bush, Obama and Trump for a few, who were elected democratically for presidency by the free people in USA?

Good question.  No one.  Just some rando on the internet lying to strangers about nothing for no reason.  

Should a rational man as I am be surprised if a faithful American believes there is no one outside America who can be honest and sincere more than his great presidents?

See, it's compulsive with you.  

In brief, your reaction is natural and I thank you for being sincere.

Polite insincerity definitely isn't my strong suit.  Is compulsive lying and batshit irrationality natural to you, or did you have to cultivate it?