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RE: A Question of Dropped Pennies: How Might an Atheist Respond?
July 2, 2017 at 2:39 pm
(July 2, 2017 at 2:04 pm)JackRussell Wrote: (July 2, 2017 at 1:22 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: I think an atheist would say "Sorry not a physicist " but even if the pennies floated up that would not disprove gravity. And even if it did why must we turn to unnatural forces to explain it?
Yeh but...Helicopters:;
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RE: A Question of Dropped Pennies: How Might an Atheist Respond?
July 2, 2017 at 2:47 pm
I pick up pennies when I see them. I have a jar to put them in. I also throw the pennies from my pocket there too. My workplace chooses a charity to do a fundraiser for each year. I donate those pennies plus more. So , I would say: "Thanks for dropping pennies!" .
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RE: A Question of Dropped Pennies: How Might an Atheist Respond?
July 2, 2017 at 3:05 pm
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(July 2, 2017 at 11:54 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: Let’s say I drop a penny on the floor fifty times to demonstrate the law of gravity.
Agnostic: How do you know it won’t fly into the air if you drop it one more time?
Theist: My god can make the penny fly into the air the next time you drop it. But don’t actually try it. Thou shalt not tempt the lord thy god.
Deist: Yes, there’s something making that penny drop.
Now, what might an atheist say?
Heads it's gravity, tails god loses?
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RE: A Question of Dropped Pennies: How Might an Atheist Respond?
July 2, 2017 at 3:12 pm
I'm confused about your use of Agnostic. What do you mean when you think of this particular category?
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RE: A Question of Dropped Pennies: How Might an Atheist Respond?
July 2, 2017 at 3:13 pm
(July 2, 2017 at 11:54 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: Let’s say I drop a penny on the floor fifty times to demonstrate the law of gravity.
Agnostic: How do you know it won’t fly into the air if you drop it one more time?
Theist: My god can make the penny fly into the air the next time you drop it. But don’t actually try it. Thou shalt not tempt the lord thy god.
Deist: Yes, there’s something making that penny drop.
Now, what might an atheist say?
Can't really speak for an atheist, it's an insufficient label that doesn't prevent you from believing in other woo. To be fair you'd also ask what would a rational skeptic say. Which, in that case...
"Well, I seem to be sticking the ground myself without flying off into space and I've never experienced any lapse in whatever force is keeping me grounded so it does not appear to fluctuate in either strength or consistency, ergo there's no justifiable reason to believe anything in a solid state is able to remain suspended indefinitely, at least within the atmosphere of a planetary mass. But there are still questions and facets to explore and I shall happily do so as I have an endless thirst for knowledge and get a deep fulfillment from experimenting and learning and improving my understanding, discarding failed hypotheses and revising my opinion about whatever I've been convinced of if new evidence is compelling enough. Even if there was a supernatural component behind these things, by its nature it is impossible to investigate and is therefore irrelevant."
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: A Question of Dropped Pennies: How Might an Atheist Respond?
July 2, 2017 at 3:17 pm
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What an atheist would never answer:
Anyone know what I'm doing wrong to get a video to post?
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RE: A Question of Dropped Pennies: How Might an Atheist Respond?
July 2, 2017 at 3:38 pm
I would say "Pennies have never flown upwards any time I dropped them. They have fallen downwards every single time. I will bet you one penny that it will fall downwards the next time. Then two pennies the time after, then four the time after that. I am confident enough in the laws of physics to put my money where my mouth is - are you as confident in your god?"
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RE: A Question of Dropped Pennies: How Might an Atheist Respond?
July 2, 2017 at 3:40 pm
(July 2, 2017 at 3:17 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Anyone know what I'm doing wrong to get a video to post?
Don't have spaces inside the tags.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: A Question of Dropped Pennies: How Might an Atheist Respond?
July 2, 2017 at 3:56 pm
A penny is a VERY large object for Heisenbergian hijinks, however, if you try it enough times . . . . .
If Alex wants to take a stab at the math that would be fine, my best calculator only goes up to 9.999999999 X 10^499
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RE: A Question of Dropped Pennies: How Might an Atheist Respond?
July 2, 2017 at 3:57 pm
I'm too old for the experiment, all that unpleasant bending. Why not use a fifty pence piece?
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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