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RE: What is required for a human organism to be considered a rights bearer?
July 6, 2017 at 9:17 am
Khemikal Wrote:The inclusion is that my brother does not have a disability, he is not a fetus, he's a grown ass man gifted with everything that ought make his ride super fuckin easy in society..and yet he remains "less-than-viable".
My brother is pissing me off. He's in my bed right now..my wife is sleeping next to me here on the floor(the floor!)...and I'm considering aborting him in his sleep, a quarter of a century after the fact. That's real late term.
I've been there. And I'm about as non-confrontational and easy to 'guilt' as anyone, but after two years, I kicked him out. You're not doing him any favors in the long run by letting him sponge off you.
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RE: What is required for a human organism to be considered a rights bearer?
July 6, 2017 at 11:27 am
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2017 at 11:45 am by The Grand Nudger.)
We're hitting the one year mark at present. Before that it was my mother..and before that it was my in-laws. The great recession hit everyone hard, us too, but us less than the rest of our respective families.
In any case, I only meant for this to be a minor diversion in support of Mins quip - but..I will say that the "viability of the fetus" is a massive bait and switch, since it's viability, however one chooses to define that, is a meaningless distinction. The fetus is no more viable in it's own right after birth than it is in the womb..and for some of us, the once-fetus-now-purportedly full grown man remains equally unviable or viable well into their twenties or worse. Maybe, -maybe- if the gov was set up such that an unwanted child could be removed from the womb and provided for by the state - it could have some case for "viability" - but something tells me that those anti-abortion activists both in the private and government spheres wouldn't be too keen on the idea of having to take care of the little moochers themselves. Until such a time as that pipe dream becomes a reality I can't help but see poverty and the desire not to be impoverished as a solidly legit reason to abort.
I, personally, wouldn't and couldn't decide not to have kids just because I was poor...but I can't in good conscience make that decision for another or even cast subtle shade on them for having done so. Similarly, I categorically reject any "those are the consequences of sex" comments..in that the consequence of sex is an orgasm, not impoverishment and shame.
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RE: What is required for a human organism to be considered a rights bearer?
July 6, 2017 at 11:29 am
Your rights as a citizen of whatever country you live in, begin when you are born and are officially part of that population. So, babies have rights, but human fetuses and embryos don't.