The Official "Damned Trump" Thread

[The Architect Of Fate]

I also remember when his fanboys were all excited that 2018 had no launches. Never mind the  fact they were still making missiles and they were simply switching over to mass production,Now i wonder if they will eat crow when new tests are going on .

[Pat Mustard]

Of course this isn't first time that US has negotiated with NK, it happened many times in the past but dumb Trump supporters have no knowledge of anything, and let alone of the past, think this is the first time and that Trump is actually going somewhere with this. The fact is that NK negotiated and even signed all sorts of treaties in the past to give up its nukes, but always broke them, like

Generally what happens vis a vis the DPRK is that a Democrat president gets elected, starts serious talks and begins to get somewhere. But after they are out of the White House (either through term limit or being booted out at the EC), a traitor party pol gets in sabres some rattles and pisses of the current ruling Kim enough that they pull out and everything goes back to square one.

There are two variations on this pattern. The first is a slight one in that a hard/far right president gets elected in the RoK and for reasons of trying to gin up their base sabres the rattles while the Democrat president is still trying to negotiate. The second is the Trump Manoeuvre in that he rattles sabres madly escalating the problem, then falls madly in love with the Kim in power, promises him everything for nothing in return, but is too ADD'd to be able to remember his promises for the next five minutes and promptly pisses off the Kim royally meaning that now we have a mad man with a bad haircut and working nukes, and he's not going to take it any more!

[Chad32]

No, Boru, as you see in the news, NK is rattling with its nukes again.

Of course this isn't first time that US has negotiated with NK, it happened many times in the past but dumb Trump supporters have no knowledge of anything, and let alone of the past, think this is the first time and that Trump is actually going somewhere with this. The fact is that NK negotiated and even signed all sorts of treaties in the past to give up its nukes, but always broke them, like

Treaty on the Nonproliferation of Nuclear Weapons in 1985

Joint Declaration of the Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula in 1992

Agreed Framework (aid for plutonium) in 1994

Six-Party Talks in 2002 where they agreed to abandon all nuclear program.

Six-Party Talks (Again) in 2007

US Agreement in 2012

But...but...he said last year that North Korea is no longer a nuclear threat.  Are implying that Trump is dishonest or something?

Boru

Yeah, NK has nukes, but isn't considered a threat. Iran might get nukes, so we need to do something about them, but it involves getting out of a treaty that Obama signed, along with other world leaders, because we need to hate Iran.

[Fake Messiah]

Trump official who doesn’t want poor people to have publicly-funded healthcare wants public to pay for Ivanka's jewelry

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-o...a-jewelry/

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Trump official who doesn’t want poor people to have publicly-funded healthcare wants public to pay for Ivanka's jewelry

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-o...a-jewelry/

A $325 claim for moisturizer was also among the items included.

Either she was traveling with a vat of the stuff, or it's made from the sweat glands of Martian sand leopards.

Boru

[arewethereyet]

Ya know - the story states that the stuff stolen was uninsured. The rest of us would take a loss under those circumstances.

The rotten apples didn't fall far from the diseased tree in that family.

[Dmitry1983]

Trump official who doesn’t want poor people to have publicly-funded healthcare wants public to pay for Ivanka's jewelry

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-o...a-jewelry/

She received her fair share of public spending since taxes are paid mostly by the rich.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Trump official who doesn’t want poor people to have publicly-funded healthcare wants public to pay for Ivanka's jewelry

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-o...a-jewelry/

She received her fair share of public spending since taxes are paid mostly by the rich.

Nope you don't get to spend public money because you pay more taxes .Taxes are about serving the public interest and the functions of good government .Nobody has the right to use them of frivolous personnel luxuries .

[Dmitry1983]

She received her fair share of public spending since taxes are paid mostly by the rich.

Nope you don't get to spend public money because you pay more taxes .Taxes are about serving the public interest and the functions of  good government .Nobody has the right to use them of frivolous personnel luxuries .

You get what you pay for. That's fairness.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Nope you don't get to spend public money because you pay more taxes .Taxes are about serving the public interest and the functions of  good government .Nobody has the right to use them of frivolous personnel luxuries .

You get what you pay for. That's fairness.

That's not how that works .You paid to fund the government and public services nothing else .