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RE: Take away money from PP and Food stamps to fund border wall
July 16, 2017 at 9:12 pm
Whenever a democrat is in the oval office, the republicans bitch endlessly about government spending.
When one of their own is in charge? In my lifetime I have only seen one republican president try to be economically responsible and he was hated for it; Bush Sr raised taxes when he needed to and the entire republican party had a collective heart attack over it. On a related note, the only president who has had a budget surplus in my lifetime has been a democrat.
Regan was more than willing to throw money away on the Star Wars program. That's wasteful government spending. Dubya was always eager to piss money away on war, rejecting any attempt to end it. That's pretty wasteful if you ask me. The bailouts weren't exactly the hands-off government republicans always say they want, either, but Dubya was the one who coined the phrase "too big to fail." Now the orange moron wants to increase defense spending and build his wall. No doubt there's a wealthy contractor out there, eager to get his hands on the money Trump is willing to spend on that wall.
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RE: Take away money from PP and Food stamps to fund border wall
July 16, 2017 at 10:24 pm
I think Bush Sr was also the one who called trickle down economics voodoo economics. We should have all the evidence we need that cutting taxes on the rich and deregulating everything is not sustainable, but they keep doing it because the rich don't suffer when the economy collapses.
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RE: Take away money from PP and Food stamps to fund border wall
July 17, 2017 at 12:07 am
(July 16, 2017 at 10:24 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I think Bush Sr was also the one who called trickle down economics voodoo economics. We should have all the evidence we need that cutting taxes on the rich and deregulating everything is not sustainable, but they keep doing it because the rich don't suffer when the economy collapses.
Eventually, it's going to collapse beyond their ability to sustain themselves.
From about the end of World War 2, the basic business plan was simple: make products for consumers and sell services to consumers. Well, since about the 80's or so, the GOP plan has been to shaft the middle class (and over the past decade or so, the democrats haven't really fought them on it, either). Their problem would ordinarly have been that if they financially shaft the middle class, nobody is going to be able to buy their products or services except a very small number of equally wealthy people. They came up with two solutions: Credit and government. People now use credit to buy all kinds of things that they wouldn't have dreamed of using credit for 40 years ago. But even that's only going to go so far and a more reliable source of income seems to be government. Convince the federal government to piss away money on whatever they produce while lobbying them to give you even more. So far, it's working alright, but eventually they're going to hit a ceiling where even the federal government doesn't have any more money to give them. What happens then? Their business model demands constantly increasing profits, so what happens when they've squeezed all the profits out of our system that they can? If we don't figure out a way to deal with that problem, it's going to crash the economy in such a way that the great depression will look mild in comparison.
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RE: Take away money from PP and Food stamps to fund border wall
July 17, 2017 at 9:15 am
(July 16, 2017 at 7:09 pm)Court Jester Wrote: Far less misleading than "you can keep your Doctor", but misleading statements are only negative for one side.
No it wasn't you stupid piece of shit.
Obama intended for people to be able to keep their doctors. And a fucking lot of people did.
Mexico isn't going to spend a fucking dime on that stupid fucking wall.
You really ought to get a fucking brain.
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RE: Take away money from PP and Food stamps to fund border wall
July 17, 2017 at 9:54 am
(July 17, 2017 at 9:15 am)Divinity Wrote: (July 16, 2017 at 7:09 pm)Court Jester Wrote: Far less misleading than "you can keep your Doctor", but misleading statements are only negative for one side.
No it wasn't you stupid piece of shit.
Obama intended for people to be able to keep their doctors. And a fucking lot of people did.
Mexico isn't going to spend a fucking dime on that stupid fucking wall.
You really ought to get a fucking brain.
Liberals are such heartwarming souls.
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July 17, 2017 at 9:55 am
(July 17, 2017 at 9:54 am)Court Jester Wrote: Liberals are such heartwarming souls.
"I have nothing to add to this discussion, so I'll just complain that you were mean to me."
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RE: Take away money from PP and Food stamps to fund border wall
July 17, 2017 at 10:13 am
(July 17, 2017 at 9:55 am)Divinity Wrote: (July 17, 2017 at 9:54 am)Court Jester Wrote: Liberals are such heartwarming souls.
"I have nothing to add to this discussion, so I'll just complain that you were mean to me."
I actually had a good bit to add. As you state that I need to get a brain; I find it ironic that educated folks with masters’ degrees (or multiple degrees) and global business ownership and experience can be lectured or put down by folks that are likely lucky to hold down a job at McDonalds or Walmart, but feel they have the qualifications to hold a political policy position based on their warm and fuzzy feelings. And many (not all) liberals do this while blabbering about peace, love, and acceptance of all.
I simply felt that “heartwarming souls” was a little more polite than pointing out complete single sided social retardation which lacks the scope of larger policy decisions.
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RE: Take away money from PP and Food stamps to fund border wall
July 17, 2017 at 10:16 am
(July 17, 2017 at 10:13 am)Court Jester Wrote: I actually had a good bit to add. As you state that I need to get a brain; I find it ironic that educated folks with masters’ degrees (or multiple degrees) and global business ownership and experience can be lectured or put down by folks that are likely lucky to hold down a job at McDonalds or Walmart, but feel they have the qualifications to hold a political policy position based on their warm and fuzzy feelings. And many (not all) liberals do this while blabbering about peace, love, and acceptance of all.
I simply felt that “heartwarming souls” was a little more polite than pointing out complete single sided social retardation which lacks the scope of larger policy decisions.
No you didn't. You had no response to me, except now to try to insinuate I can only get a job at McDonalds. (And also insinuating those who work at McDonalds are unqualified to have a political discussion) Probably because that's where you work, and you are the fucking party of projection as always. Don't worry. There's nothing wrong with flipping burgers. Being an idiot on the other hand, there is something wrong with. And you are an idiot.
I'm going to call a spade a spade. I'm not going to fucking apologize for that.
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RE: Take away money from PP and Food stamps to fund border wall
July 17, 2017 at 10:19 am
See. Heartwarming.
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RE: Take away money from PP and Food stamps to fund border wall
July 17, 2017 at 10:22 am
See. Absolutely no response.
"You were mean to me! So I win automatically! Take the liburls!"
That's what the fucking conservative party has come down to these days.
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