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I lost my Soul
#31
RE: I lost my Soul
(July 25, 2017 at 9:28 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: I think of hell as more of a logical fate of certain events; just like death. God doesn't enjoy torture, but the serial killer's only reasonable fate is a place like hell; imagine a pedophile serial killer who rapes children then eat them

With all due respect, and out of curiosity, is it not logical to focus more on rehabilitation than on torture?











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#32
RE: I lost my Soul
(July 25, 2017 at 7:16 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(July 25, 2017 at 3:18 pm)Astreja Wrote: *hug* You're not going to hell, GoneGuy.  Trust that a truly good god would never put anyone through something like that, and that it's just a myth that was invented to scare people into the pews and loot their wallets.

Some people do deserve hell. They did some nasty, nasty things. Unspeakable harm to many humans.
Your eyes weren't scratched yet; in other words you didn't see.

I think I see a little further down the road than you think, Atlas.

Nobody deserves hell.  No exceptions.  Not even the worst of the worst in the history of humanity.  Eternal punishment for finite crimes is infinitely unjust, because the punishment is infinitely more than the crime.
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#33
RE: I lost my Soul
Goneguy, you are one sick sock and I hope you get exposed.

GC

(July 26, 2017 at 12:58 am)Astreja Wrote:
(July 25, 2017 at 7:16 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Some people do deserve hell. They did some nasty, nasty things. Unspeakable harm to many humans.
Your eyes weren't scratched yet; in other words you didn't see.

I think I see a little further down the road than you think, Atlas.

Nobody deserves hell.  No exceptions.  Not even the worst of the worst in the history of humanity.  Eternal punishment for finite crimes is infinitely unjust, because the punishment is infinitely more than the crime.

 The sin is against an infinite being (God) and a sin unforgiven is infinite, so therefore the punishment is infinite.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#34
RE: I lost my Soul
(July 26, 2017 at 1:25 am)Godscreated Wrote: Goneguy, you are one sick sock and I hope you get exposed.

GC

Don't get mad GC. That's one of your peoples!
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#35
RE: I lost my Soul
Quote:Imagine if there was no reward after school, or no paycheck in your work.

I'd quit.   Which is what I did with fucking religion.
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#36
RE: I lost my Soul
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#37
RE: I lost my Soul
(July 26, 2017 at 1:42 am)Thena323 Wrote:
(July 26, 2017 at 1:25 am)Godscreated Wrote: Goneguy, you are one sick sock and I hope you get exposed.

GC

Don't get mad GC. That's one of your peoples!

 I seriously doubt it, if this person ever knew God he would not have made all the mistakes he did. I think he's a sock and I hope someone catches him at it. Besides I'm not mad what good would that do me no matter who he is. Actually if he were to be a Christian I just might get a bit upset with him for such a poor expression of what the Bible says. That is definitely no way for a Christian to act. 

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#38
RE: I lost my Soul
(July 25, 2017 at 8:05 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: 3 - ~ you aren't some sort of a shitposter who drops a giant turd of a thread then leaves.

Please leave our friend CL out of this! Big Grin
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#39
RE: I lost my Soul
(July 25, 2017 at 9:24 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Since you no longer have a soul you should consider becoming a politician.  None of them have souls so you will have a lot of company.

Uggggg, that simply is not true. In the west all parties bitch about government, but what other alternative is there? You either have theocracy like Iran or Saudi Arabia, which also have governments, Or you have fascist 1 party states like China or 1 party states AND family rule like Cuba and the Castro family or North Korea and the Kim family. No government is just as bad like Somalia which is basically ruled by rich gangs.

Our species evolved to be social and power structures will always form when a void is created by conflict. No system is perfect and there will always be greedy people who seek power, but to claim that every politician is evil is simply bullshit. In the west we have, WHEN it is used and when citizens care to get involved, we have concepts of checks on power and the idea of anti monopoly so that no aspect of society, public, private, class, religious or political can gain a lopsided monopoly. 

If you are going to complain about the current state of politics, blame the billionaire class and their global corporatism pumping money into politics to sell the bullshit idea of austerity. But don't claim there are no politicians at all that are not trying to fight that.

I do want government. I want police, libraries and public schools. I want regulations that protect water and food and speed limits too. The only way those things happen is through government. So the only argument really, isn't that all politicians are bad, but what long term policies are good or bad.
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#40
RE: I lost my Soul
Elon Musk made a good point about strict industry regulations.
Can you over regulate airline maintenance / safety?

Anyone comfortable cutting any corners whatsoever?
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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