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RE: Drumpfucks - Yep, They're Crazy
August 4, 2017 at 2:13 pm
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(August 3, 2017 at 4:35 pm)Gearbreak Wrote: Or you know we're mostly normal everyday Americans who differ on policy. I never like to fall into the trap of thinking my political opposites are crazy or stupid. I just think they're wrong.
Opponents to my own political opinions, generally, aren't crazy or stupid. As a rule, trumpsters must be one or the other. They make a party oath to dear leader on that count. They must either be or pretend to be completely ignorant of reality, or..failing that, be completely indifferent -too- reality.
Stupid and/or crazy seems to cover all contingencies contained within trump support. Meh, it;s not really surprising at all, in that the number of people who voted for trump correlates nicely to the number of americans who simply must be below average, by definition of averages.
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RE: Drumpfucks - Yep, They're Crazy
August 5, 2017 at 9:46 am
(August 3, 2017 at 11:05 pm)ComradeMeow Wrote: Lets see . . .
I am an avid Libertarian so I hate authority.
Dislike hierarchy.
I am not racist.
I am a minority myself.
I do not believe in entitlement of any sort. Not even healthcare.
This article describes ultra leftists if anything. The need to enforce views on others along with virtue signaling is an avid leftist action. The need of hiearchy though applies for both groups although where hierarchy should remain is disputed amongst both groups. Leftists are avid racist who like the ADL are hell point on enforcing racist views suppressing free speech on race and religion. Conservatives love minorities unless they are classical Bible thumping conservatives and entitlement is purely a majority found in lefties.
We conservatives do not think anybody is entitled to anything. This is a massive part of conservatism and the push for free-marke capitalism although this push is not found in all conservative strains of thought.
This article is undoubtedly written by morons. And yet you think you are entitled to force a "free market" on people who know that there is no such a thing. That you are entitled to poison the water that others drink and the air that they breath because it benefits the "bottom line" to do so. Indeed, you think you are entitled to have a bottom line in the first place. I am deeply anti-authoritarian myself, but just as deeply committed to the idea that the human race succeeds only when people cooperate with each other for the common good, and now stands at the brink of failure because we have decided that cooperation is somehow evil while self-gratification and hubris is the ultimate "good". Look around, "conservative" now stands for nothing other than pure selfishness, and that ideology is reeking havoc over what was once a viable society that was on the leading edge of human progress, but now wallows in a cesspool of greed, hatred, violence, and war.
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RE: Drumpfucks - Yep, They're Crazy
August 5, 2017 at 12:51 pm
(August 3, 2017 at 4:35 pm)Gearbreak Wrote: Or you know we're mostly normal everyday Americans who differ on policy. I never like to fall into the trap of thinking my political opposites are crazy or stupid. I just think they're wrong.
That argument could be used if Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Marco Rubio, John Kasich, or almost anyone else would have been elected.
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RE: Drumpfucks - Yep, They're Crazy
August 5, 2017 at 2:41 pm
(August 5, 2017 at 9:46 am)tjakey Wrote: (August 3, 2017 at 11:05 pm)ComradeMeow Wrote: Lets see . . .
I am an avid Libertarian so I hate authority.
Dislike hierarchy.
I am not racist.
I am a minority myself.
I do not believe in entitlement of any sort. Not even healthcare.
This article describes ultra leftists if anything. The need to enforce views on others along with virtue signaling is an avid leftist action. The need of hiearchy though applies for both groups although where hierarchy should remain is disputed amongst both groups. Leftists are avid racist who like the ADL are hell point on enforcing racist views suppressing free speech on race and religion. Conservatives love minorities unless they are classical Bible thumping conservatives and entitlement is purely a majority found in lefties.
We conservatives do not think anybody is entitled to anything. This is a massive part of conservatism and the push for free-marke capitalism although this push is not found in all conservative strains of thought.
This article is undoubtedly written by morons. And yet you think you are entitled to force a "free market" on people who know that there is no such a thing. That you are entitled to poison the water that others drink and the air that they breath because it benefits the "bottom line" to do so. Indeed, you think you are entitled to have a bottom line in the first place. I am deeply anti-authoritarian myself, but just as deeply committed to the idea that the human race succeeds only when people cooperate with each other for the common good, and now stands at the brink of failure because we have decided that cooperation is somehow evil while self-gratification and hubris is the ultimate "good". Look around, "conservative" now stands for nothing other than pure selfishness, and that ideology is reeking havoc over what was once a viable society that was on the leading edge of human progress, but now wallows in a cesspool of greed, hatred, violence, and war.
SO freedom is force? You obviously lack intellectual capacity to understand what that means.
You obviously do not understand my opinions on pollution . . . as a vegan I am fairly radical about it.
Also you do not even understand the vastness of my opinions and you have lumped me into the same pot as other conservatives and by conservative you mean Republican.
So can you at least be fair and civil?
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RE: Drumpfucks - Yep, They're Crazy
August 5, 2017 at 4:02 pm
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Wilfully misinterpeting posts yet you still feel like you can whine for civility and "fairness" - what a whiny little shithead thing to do. It was rather obvious that the "free market" part of the quoted post pertains to criticizing the Conservative misrepresentation of the free market as effectively being fraudulent.
Nowhere did it discuss "Freedom as a force". Only the act of making a broken system built on lies.
Howbout you blow your cheese and whine out your ass? Your incivility demands incivility back. Blame yourself.
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RE: Drumpfucks - Yep, They're Crazy
August 5, 2017 at 7:44 pm
(August 4, 2017 at 12:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:she didn't like Hillary
I don't know where the idea ever came from that you have to "like" someone in order to vote for them when they are on your side. How fucking facile is that?
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RE: Drumpfucks - Yep, They're Crazy
August 5, 2017 at 8:21 pm
(August 5, 2017 at 7:44 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (August 4, 2017 at 12:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I don't know where the idea ever came from that you have to "like" someone in order to vote for them when they are on your side. How fucking facile is that? I wouldn't vote for Lying Crooked Hillary if she was running against a zombie vampire from the Andromeda Galaxy.
^^^^^^ That shit right there is what Richard Dawkins was taking about meme theory. I would merely call it marketing. Marketing does work, but that does not mean it is objective.
Handing down social norms to the next generation is what most of our species does. But that does not constitute fact.
If all marketing by religion or political party or economic view were true by default then we would use those things as universally as we do a computer, doctor or flu vaccine.
You not liking Hillary does not even put her as even being close to the vile WW2 German scapegoating marketing 45 has employed.
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RE: Drumpfucks - Yep, They're Crazy
August 5, 2017 at 9:35 pm
(August 3, 2017 at 7:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: If you think back, the WLB had no policy. All he ever said was that he was the smartest guy ever and he had a plan for Afghanistan, for immigration, for getting Mexico to pay for the stupid, fucking, wall, for great healthcare that covered everything and cost less, and so on. "I'm the only one who can fix it" was one of his slogans and the lunatic racist fringe bought it hook, line and sinker.
Now the useless shit finds himself in real school and he doesn't have the attention span to learn.
The last politician that sold themselves as a cure all selling scapegoating hyper nationalism committed suicide in a bunker in Berlin in 1945.
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RE: Drumpfucks - Yep, They're Crazy
August 5, 2017 at 11:08 pm
(August 5, 2017 at 7:44 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (August 4, 2017 at 12:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I don't know where the idea ever came from that you have to "like" someone in order to vote for them when they are on your side. How fucking facile is that? I wouldn't vote for Lying Crooked Hillary if she was running against a zombie vampire from the Andromeda Galaxy.
I doubt you could muster the energy to tear yourself away from your nacho-cheese-flavored popcorn and favorite television show to vote.
I mean, that nacho-cheese-flavored popcorn's some good shit. Or maybe that Trump Koolade, for all I know about you. Did you vote for Trump?
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