White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville

[henryp]

Doing nothing, in this case, is better than engaging in a way that accomplishes nothing and carries the risk of escalating the violence.

According to who?  And why?  Maybe we should take this same "do nothing" approach to Isis as well.  I mean, after all...interfering with a dangerous group of people who perpetuate hate, and spawn crimes against humanity may lead to the risk of escalating violence. And we wouldn't want that, now wouldn't we?

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If this had been a non-white terrorist attack on American soil, the right would be jerking off, squealing, "this is why we need our guns!  'Murrica!"  *orgasm*

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Wally, no protesters marched into Clan territory; the clansmen came to them.  Big difference.

This is the approach we take with Isis.  Most regular citizens do nothing and let the military/intelligence agencies take care of it.  Just because you and I aren't punching Nazi's doesn't mean the police and FBI aren't monitoring them.  

That's how most things are dealt with. We've set up a system to deal with shit like this to keep things from escalating and putting people in danger.

It's a bit tricky in the US, because these guys can can have rally's and say horrible things in public places.  It's not anybody's 'territory'.  I'm okay with making that illegal if people want.  It's definitely a slippery slope, but I don't mind personally.  I know a bunch of this sort of stuff is illegal in Germany.   Just like I'm fine with taking down the statues.  I think the statue thing is goofy, but cities/states can decide for themselves.  

But the point I keep making, is that once people start operating outside the law, even if it's something seemingly justifiable like punching a fascist, things are going to trend poorly for everyone.
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As for needing 'our guns,' the counter protesters should definitely be carrying guns.  I don't know if a full on shootout is likely, but it's definitely a real possibility, and you know the white supremacists are going to have plenty when it goes down.

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We agree heroin and human trafficking are big problems.  Why don't these PC bros wander into gang territory and start punching gang members?  

Hey, you know what, that's a good question.  Maybe they should.  OTOH, not everyone is suited to be the red right hand, and some of us who were are all used up.  So, why not you?  How about you?

It is a real good question.  That people protesting a statue's removal from 100 years ago sort of related to slavery must be stood up to and punched in the face, but real slavery in the 21st century we keep our distance from?

Just like we don't see a lot of the scary Nazi's getting punched.  The drug running weapons dealing Neo Nazi's gangs seem to get a free pass from the mighty Antifa.  But the hot dog maker with the noodle arms and dopey haircut, they bravely face off against him.

It's almost like it's all bullshit.

[The Grand Nudger]

Or it's almost like the neo nazi hotdog maker is all that their arm can reach, and that the "mighty" antifia isn't so much a terrifying force but a bunch of protesters doing what meager shit they can..........but hey, you be you, you explain things your way...and again I have to ask...since you know the score.....why not you?  Are you spent and used up, like me?  How did that happen?

[henryp]

Or it's almost like the neo nazi hotdog maker is all that their arm can reach...but hey, you be you, you explain things your way...and again I have to ask...since you know the score.....why not you.  Are you spent and used up, like me?  How did that happen?

I know the score.  That's why I think we should leave the work of the FBI/DEA/Police/Homeland to the FBI/DEA/Police/Homeland.  I don't like illegal immigration, but I don't try to restrain illegal immigrants.  If I see a fire, I call the fire department.  The system was designed this way for a reason.  If you have dipshits running around deciding they know better, they put themselves in danger, on top of putting those around them in danger, and often the people who have to save them from their fuckup in danger.

You can see how this goes right?  They punch white national's.  White National punch protesters.  Everybody has a battle royale.  Particularly crazy white supremacist drives car into protesters.  Someone shoots someone at the next 'clash'.  Then the shootee's side brings guns to their next one.  Then we get a full fledged battle in the streets.  And not only do nazi's and antifa die, but plenty of police and innocent bystanders.  Does any of that seem farfetched?

[The Grand Nudger]

I know the score.  That's why I think we should leave the work of the FBI/DEA/Police/Homeland to the FBI/DEA/Police/Homeland.  I don't like illegal immigration, but I don't try to restrain illegal immigrants.  If I see a fire, I call the fire department.  The system was designed this way for a reason.

...it sure was.....

If you have dipshits running around deciding they know better, they put themselves in danger, on top of putting those around them in danger, and often the people who have to save them from their fuckup in danger.

-but are they wrong?

You can see how this goes right?  They punch white national's.  White National punch protesters.  Everybody has a battle royale.  Particularly crazy white supremacist drives car into protesters.  Someone shoots someone at the next 'clash'.  Then the shootee's side brings guns to their next one.  Then we get a full fledged battle in the streets.  And not only do nazi's and antifa die, but plenty of police and innocent bystanders.  Does any of that seem farfetched?

I can, yes.  "They" punch a white nationalist, and white nationalists do what they always wanted to do.  If conflict is inevitable why on earth would I or anyone who isn't a white nationalist do anything other than commend those who punch them squarely in the grill?  

I'm not a peacenik, Wally , the prospect of violence does not dissuade me from what I know to be right. I wont be and cannot become a hostage to threats of violence by those who will do violence regardless. I may be spent, but i'm not fucking useless..........what are you? Are you so terrified that violent people will do violent things that you'll roll over and let them do violence so long as you aren't the target? What a disappointment.

[Amarok]

Donald Trump apologizes for racists




Justin Trudeau cuddles pandas

[The Grand Nudger]

When did americans become such spineless pieces of shit that canucks cuddling pandas seemed like an improvement?

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Anybody post the cry baby yet? So, so abused.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/...ies-video/

Yeah, he's terrified. Right.

Cantwell was a tough guy in other videos.  Now he's a scared little mouse.

[The Grand Nudger]

That's how they all are.  They're pathetic bitches in the face of those who know love, who know honor.   /twocents.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

That's how they all are.  They're pathetic bitches in the face of those who know love, who know honor.   /twocents.

Notice how tough Cantwell was in the video that aired August 14, 2017.  https://news.vice.com/story/vice-news-to...and-terror  Now he's shaking like a mouse.

[brewer]

I hope that more of them lose employment over this behavior.