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God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
#21
RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(August 26, 2017 at 10:30 am)Khemikal Wrote: You'd have to ask a believer, wouldn't you?  

Surely there must be someone here to provide what you've requested.

One more dogma Kem.
Where is the evidence that all believers think that the Bible is God's book AS YOU STATED?  I'm all ears!

Aren't you tired of floating from dogma to dogma?  Panic
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#22
RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(August 25, 2017 at 8:46 am)ignoramus Wrote: Theists, are you comfortable knowing that the thing you worship will never reveal himself to you?

Yes, quite comfortable.

Quote:He will never help you when you are ill. He will never be your wingman in battle. Never protect you from harm.

I'm a recovered alcoholic and I give God the credit. Do I have absolute proof God cured me? No. Am I comfortable with that? Sure.

Quote:That’s the problem with believing in the unfalsifiable: You could be wrong and you’d never find out.

How exactly is that a problem for me? Sober, married 26 years, three children, good job...it's working out just fine.
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#23
RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(August 26, 2017 at 10:26 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(August 26, 2017 at 10:02 am)vorlon13 Wrote: But then they turn around and ascribe authorship to their God for the lamest pile of crapola, their Bible. The genius of having an undetectable deity is lost when He is repeatedly quoted contradicting Himself, changing His mind (how does that happen when you're omniscient?) and making prophecies either too vague to ever be attributed to a unique event or ones that are proven false by reality.

Just the Amalek bit (I will forever blot out remembrance of Amalek, but then God notes precisely that in His Bible, guaranteeing Amalek will NEVER be forgotten) is fucking ludicrous, and yet the followers seem clueless about how crippling that is to their cause.
AMALEK AMALEK AMALEK AMALEK !!!!


One more idiotic dogma.

Where is the evidence that the Bible is God's book?  I'm all ears!

It sure as fuck isn't mine!
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#24
RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(August 26, 2017 at 10:44 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(August 26, 2017 at 10:30 am)Khemikal Wrote: You'd have to ask a believer, wouldn't you?  

Surely there must be someone here to provide what you've requested.

One more dogma Kem.
Where is the evidence that all believers think that the Bible is God's book AS YOU STATED?  I'm all ears!

Aren't you tired of floating from dogma to dogma?  Panic

It hardly matters to me which magic book they point to, Rik, lol.  Take the issue up with your fellow god-botherers, not me.

@Alpha

Let me get this straight...you stopped putting a bottle to your lips.....and you credit that, to a god?  God stopped you from drinking whiskey while he annihilated or ceased to prevent the annihilation of entire populations elsewhere in the world at the very same time?  

Gee, you must be really fucking important.......
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#25
RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(August 26, 2017 at 3:52 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Gee, you must be really fucking impotent.......

FTFY
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#26
RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
LOL, probably.

I just don;t get it though, people who believe that god was the designer of the miracle of humanity think so little of that gods work that they imagine he's got his hand up everyones ass, including their own....that his work is so flawed and incompetent that it doesn't do shit for itself?  From alcoholism to lost wallets.  From deciding not to rape some rando to governing nations.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#27
RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
Here's the biggest problem: All the baggage that comes with your bullshit beliefs. You think it does good things in your life and want to sacrifice your own self-esteem to it? Fine. But don't you DARE force those beliefs on anyone else (oh, but wait, you're all doing that to your children aren't you? Fuck all of you for that.) You want others to respect this belief and not call it bullshit or call you insane for holding those beliefs? Again, FUCK YOU. You hold absolutely ZERO high ground here and are almost inevitably asking too much from the rest of us because of it. You'll never stop accruing debts to humanity with this sickness you're inflicting and perpetuating. So when it gives you happy tinglings, just remember, if you tossed it away, this world would be one step closer to bringing an end to jihad, pedophile priests being sheltered and free to continue preying on the innocent, anti-science and anti-homosexual agendas and snake oil salesmen fleecing billions out of the gullible. That you're not willing to embrace you humanity is keeping all of that shit from becoming nothing more than a bad memory. I hope you're all fucking proud of yourselves you selfish hypocrites.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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#28
RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(August 26, 2017 at 3:16 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(August 25, 2017 at 8:46 am)ignoramus Wrote: Theists, are you comfortable knowing that the thing you worship will never reveal himself to you?

Yes, quite comfortable.

I'm not sure how anyone can be comfortable with gullibility. But to each his or her own...

Quote:He will never help you when you are ill. He will never be your wingman in battle. Never protect you from harm.

Quote:I'm a recovered alcoholic and I give God the credit. Do I have absolute proof God cured me? No. Am I comfortable with that? Sure.

Here's a quick way to tell if it is likely that Yahweh/Jesus cured you: ask yourself, has here ever been a recovered alcoholic that is an atheist? A person of another religion?

If the answer is yes, then it is most likely that you recovered without any deity. You are giving credit to the nonexistent.

Take credit, man! You are responsible.


Quote:That’s the problem with believing in the unfalsifiable: You could be wrong and you’d never find out.

Quote:How exactly is that a problem for me? Sober, married 26 years, three children, good job...it's working out just fine.

As if none of those things could happen to an atheist, Hindu, Zoroastrian, Buddhist, etc, etc.

Maybe if you can demonstrate that those things happen at a significantly higher rate for Christians than people of other religions, or no religions, you may have a point.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#29
RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
(August 26, 2017 at 4:58 pm)Khemikal Wrote: LOL, probably.

I just don;t get it though, people who believe that god was the designer of the miracle of humanity think so little of that gods work that they imagine he's got his hand up everyones ass, including their own....that his work is so flawed and incompetent that it doesn't do shit for itself?  From alcoholism to lost wallets.  From deciding not to rape some rando to governing nations.

That's nothing compared to the people who think gawd's gonna help their team win.You can't make this shit up:
Quote:More than one-quarter of Americans believe God plays a role in determining which team wins a sporting event, according to a new poll by the Public Religion Research Institute.
Thief and assassin for hire. Member in good standing of the Rogues Guild.
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#30
RE: God and the dilemma with unfalsifiability
At least that means 3/4 don't.

Football games.  How to trivialize your fucking god even more!
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