Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite

[TheBeardedDude]

[Kitan Etos]

It wouldn't be called "super"natural if it was just natural.

The concept is very very tricky to understand for someone stuck in this physical realty.
Many people think that science only relate to physical science which is not the case.
The same goes for what is natural.
Most people think that is natural only what we can grasp with our physical mental senses and awareness but that is not the case Lut.
Behind this physical-mental awareness there is something else a lot lot bigger than this relative awareness.
This behind is called supernatural but in reality is natural to our total awareness.
The fact that most people are not aware of what is the totality of the natural is not a good reason to say that it doesn't exist and therefore call it supernatural.

Escape into the back of your mind where the woo exists all you want. I still prefer to reside in a woo-free reality.

[I_am_not_mafia]

Let us see your evidence that the supernatural is not natural so we know that you are not talking bull. 

So you're asking someone for evidence that something that by definition does not exist is not something else that does exist.

You need to learn what falsifiable means.

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What about Computer Science?

It is an applied science. It uses what we have discovered about the natural (physical) world, manipulating electricity, and applies it to achieve a goal or solve a problem. Computer science also uses math and logic (themselves not science) to produce results. 

All sciences are applied sciences.

Science, whether natural or unnatural, isn't constricted to observation and recording, all sciences get applied and used. Medical science wouldn't be any use if all it did was explain why we were sick and not develop medication for example.

This is so typical of the theist mindset. They see science as yet another religion but don't understand that it is more than a set of teachings precisely because it gets used and therefore tested, validated and improved. They typically don't understand that the modern world wouldn't actually exist if things that they claim were correct.

[Succubus]

Well, well, well.
Here we got the expert in what is natural.

Let us see your evidence that the supernatural is not natural so we know that you are not talking bull. 

I know this is a waste of keyboard ink, but can you show some evidence that the supernatural actually exists?

[Harry Nevis]

Well, well, well.
Here we got the expert in what is natural.

Let us see your evidence that the supernatural is not natural so we know that you are not talking bull. 

I know this is a waste of keyboard ink, but can you show some evidence that the supernatural actually exists?

Don't you get it?  "Evidence" is just Scientism rearing it's ugly head.  

[SteveII]

[TheBeardedDude]

[I_am_not_mafia]

[TheBeardedDude]

Supernatural and unnatural are not the same thing. Supernatural is outside of the natural world (our universe).

In that case you are redefining what universe means because the universe is everything that is. Therefore there can by your definition not be a supernatural.

Nope. It's really quite easy to look up these terms. You should try it. 


Your last paragraph is utter nonsense and a product of your imagination. You clearly do not even understand basic terms all throughout this thread.

Coming out with dictionary definitions ignores the fact that I am correct in that all sciences get applied. Sure yes some fields of science have more real world applications than others, but the whole reason for any science is that it is relevant and useful to the real world, otherwise it's philosophy.

What you are demonstrating is your binary religious thinking in saying that some sciences are applied and others are not.

Tell me of a scientific field that is not applied. As far as I can tell the only one anyone could possibly be able to suggest (for the moment) is astrobiology.

And astrobiology is a discipline that looks at life on Earth (both the extant and fossil records) and uses the Earth as an analog for hypothesizing about life outside the universe. So even astrobiology is applied.

[KevinM1]

Why would anyone ever infer a supernatural cause rather than an as-yet unknown natural cause for a natural event?