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Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
Yeah, every day is Groundhog Day with rikky.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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(October 5, 2017 at 7:39 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:
(October 4, 2017 at 2:03 pm)Drich Wrote: Science is the study of what we understand and can duplicate. true but science is also an excersice in faith. (theories based on theories based on evidence that may or may not support anything theorized to date.

The reason science and faith have been separated is because 'scientists' Simply WANT to feel more legit than those of "common faith in God." But in the end scientific origins like any YEC version of origins is a demonstration in the same core faith.

No, it is not. Religious faith is nothing of the kind, because science has supporting evidence, where religion does not.  And how is "common faith in god" legit?  Because it's common?  I know it makes you feel good to try to drag science down to the level of the blindly religious, but it doesn't work with thinking people.

Not all the time. at best in the case of evolution is that you have a narrative that explain mutation with in a species... here's another explanation the 'mutation is simply a extinct species or sub species. Meaning noting 'evolved. we just had a trillion more species and sub species and the fittest survived climate change and the rise of man.
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At this late stage, I hadn't expected it, Drich, but you've outdone yourself again.
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(October 9, 2017 at 12:35 pm)Drich Wrote: here's another explanation the 'mutation is simply a extinct species or sub species. Meaning noting 'evolved. we just had a trillion more species and sub species and the fittest survived climate change and the rise of man.

I recognise them as words but they don't mean anything in the order in which they are presented.
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(October 9, 2017 at 2:08 pm)Mathilda Wrote:
(October 9, 2017 at 12:35 pm)Drich Wrote: here's another explanation the 'mutation is simply a extinct species or sub species. Meaning noting 'evolved. we just had a trillion more species and sub species and the fittest survived climate change and the rise of man.

I recognise them as words but they don't mean anything in the order in which they are presented.

well then allow me explain as if I am speaking to a child.

 Evolution says: we evolved from a common ancestor and depending on time and mutation we evolve into different things based on enviroment.

Here is another explanation to the fossil record: Everything existed relatively all at once. and over time the climate changed in relitivly fast bursts, the better suited animals for the warmer or colder weather survived and the others did not. they died off in different the periods one mass extinction at a time(which is why we have a fossil record to begin with)

kinda works on the principles of Punctuated Equilibrium, but instead rapid evolution happening at points of mass and quick global climate change, the more natural thing happens... those not equip togo on simply die off. nobody goes through massive evolutionary change like from monkey to man or from whale to land dewelling animal back to whale.. that stupid if gave it 1/2 a second of thought... No the better suited animal simply climbed out of their afe spaces and took over, and because they took over they got to be bigger and stronger... (inter species evolution=the difference between a pocket begal and a walking hound.) those that could stand the new climate simply take their place atop the new food chain and became bigger versions of themselves.

This would explain why there are examples of fossiles outside of the times certain anmials were to have supposedly lived or why some fossils where found millions of years before those animals where to have developed.

Everything start roughly at the same time and the massive die off began everytime the climate changed.. This would also account for climate change now.

That's like 10 birds with the one stone I just threw.

(October 9, 2017 at 1:22 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: At this late stage, I hadn't expected it, Drich, but you've outdone yourself again.

Just a little common sense and the wherewithal to tell conventional thinking it is wrong, and boom, your the next Darwin!

Well that and you have to have the sheople to follow enmass.
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So how do we set about determining which, if either, is correct? Or is it whoever says it first?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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(October 9, 2017 at 2:49 pm)Drich Wrote:  Evolution says: we evolved from a common ancestor and depending on time and mutation we evolve into different things based on enviroment.

Here is another explanation to the fossil record: Everything existed relatively all at once. and over time the climate changed in relitivly fast bursts, the better suited animals for the warmer or colder weather survived and the others did not. they died off in different the periods one mass extinction at a time(which is why we have a fossil record to begin with)

kinda works on the principles of Punctuated Equilibrium, but instead rapid evolution happening at points of mass and quick global climate change, the more natural thing happens... those not equip togo on simply die off. nobody goes through massive evolutionary change like from monkey to man or from whale to land dewelling animal back to whale.. that stupid if gave it 1/2 a second of thought... No the better suited animal simply climbed out of their afe spaces and took over, and because they took over they got to be bigger and stronger... (inter species evolution=the difference between a pocket begal and a walking hound.) those that could stand the new climate simply take their place atop the new food chain and became bigger versions of themselves.

This would explain why there are examples of fossiles outside of the times certain anmials were to have supposedly lived or why some fossils where found millions of years before those animals where to have developed.

Everything start roughly at the same time and the massive die off began everytime the climate changed.. This would also account for climate change now.

Except that we can use the process of evolution for practical purposes. We know that it works. We can observe it happening.

None of which can be said for your alternative hypothesis.
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Time to dust this off, methinks:

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At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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Not to mention that we can observe evolutionary change throughout the fossil record. They are not disparate species dying off.

(October 9, 2017 at 2:49 pm)Drich Wrote: This would explain why there are examples of fossiles outside of the times certain anmials were to have supposedly lived or why some fossils where found millions of years before those animals where to have developed.

Citation required.
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