Tell Me Once More Progressives That Hillary and the WLB are "The Same"

[Minimalist]

I just looked it up again, and she didn't technically admit it, but said "it would have been a joke if it had been said", which is basically an admission. She said it. Racist whites are not the reason Trump got in. Hillary is the reason, and you sound like a Trump fan claiming that these things against her are fake or poorly sourced (my apologies if you had just never heard that story before and just didn't know).

Yeah, congratulations.  Now we are stuck with the biggest pile of shit to ever sit in the White House.  Be very proud.

[dyresand]

I just looked it up again, and she didn't technically admit it, but said "it would have been a joke if it had been said", which is basically an admission. She said it. Racist whites are not the reason Trump got in. Hillary is the reason, and you sound like a Trump fan claiming that these things against her are fake or poorly sourced (my apologies if you had just never heard that story before and just didn't know).

Yeah, congratulations.  Now we are stuck with the biggest pile of shit to ever sit in the White House.  Be very proud.

Lets all stop and realize this if peoples votes mattered Hillary would have been in office if the popular vote actually mattered.
The electoral college is the one to blame here and we kinda don't need it. What we do need its updated voter systems because votes can be easily hacked
and or manipulated and its been proven. What need is clean elections because there was voter fraud this past election. Until then realistically speaking 
nothing is going to change.

[Whateverist]

Trump is certainly worse, but Hillary did herself no favours by talking about blowing up embassies and things like that. Made people think she was completely bat shit insane, and that's on her.

Not sure what you're getting at but I don't think any sane person would describe Hillary Clinton as "bat shit insane".  Care to give a couple of examples?

You can fault her for being an ineffective candidate with an uninspiring personality.  But not crazy.

I'm obviously no fan of Trump and I happily voted for Hillary.  That we have the truly insane candidate now as president cannot be laid at my feet.  Who'd you vote for, or did you decide to keep your hands clean?

[The Industrial Atheist]

I'm a Progressive and like Bernie I saw that despite her flaws she would have been much better than Trump.

Now it would be nice however if 3rd parties were an option.

[FFaith]

Trump is certainly worse, but Hillary did herself no favours by talking about blowing up embassies and things like that. Made people think she was completely bat shit insane, and that's on her.

Not sure what you're getting at but I don't think any sane person would describe Hillary Clinton as "bat shit insane".  Care to give a couple of examples?

You can fault her for being an ineffective candidate with an uninspiring personality.  But not crazy.

I'm obviously no fan of Trump and I happily voted for Hillary.  That we have the truly insane candidate now as president cannot be laid at my feet.  Who'd you vote for, or did you decide to keep your hands clean?

Asking why an embassy can't be blown up to try to stop embarrassing leaks doesn't qualify as bat shit insane to you? I guess that means Trump blowing up an embassy wouldn't be a big deal either? Even all the other sociopaths in the room with Hillary laughed it off like, "Hill, good joke", but she wasn't laughing. So yeah, I'd say it's pretty alarming that she's thinking of things so fucked up that all the other sociopaths in the room are even thinking "wtf is wrong with you Hillary, you must be kidding, right?" And yeah, batshit insane is more of a slang term. Replace it with "really messed up" or whatever you want if that would be better.

[Whateverist]

So I did some looking around on youtube to find out what you were on about.  I found this from the Young Turks:






First of all, thank you 'young turks' for the false equivocation between Trump being dangerous but Hillary also being dangerous.  Not being afraid to use deadly force where needed is a far cry from 'bat shit crazy'.  Not sure if you have any clear idea of what crazy looks like but it isn't Hillary Clinton.

Are these clowns the reason you found Hillary to be unvotable?  Thank you so much for your help in giving us the maniac we have now.  I wonder how many people just down load opinions from these kinds of jokers?

[Jackalope]

I'm a Progressive and like Bernie I saw that despite her flaws she would have been much better than Trump.

^^^

This. I voted for Bernie in the primary(*) and voted for Hillary in the general election as best of two poor choices. (*) I am not a Democrat, but my state allows voters to choose a party affiliation for the purpose of voting in primaries.

As far as third parties go, I'd rather not have the liberal vote split. If we can have a parliamentary system instead of what we have, sure.

[Rev. Rye]

I'm a Progressive and like Bernie I saw that despite her flaws she would have been much better than Trump.

Now it would be nice however if 3rd parties were an option.

Me too.

Ian Hislop of Private Eye once said "Well, you have the Democrats, who are right wing, the Republican party who are very right wing, and the Tea Party, who are mad."  And, yet, when a third party rises to power, it tends to split the vote.

The last time a third party gained enough traction to actually win a state (except for 1968's George Wallace, 1948's Strom Thurmond, and 1924's Robert LaFollette, the first two because of a specific focus on the South that Northern voters wouldn't have given a shit about, and the third because he was a beloved senator and governor in the one state he won.) 1912, Teddy Roosevelt split from the Republican party, and this led to the Republican vote being split between two candidates, Roosevelt and Taft. If not for that split, Woodrow Wilson wouldn't have won the presidency. Then again, given that Wilson, despite his blatant racism and his tendency to throw dissenters in jail (just ask Eugene V. Debs), is still ranked as one of the better presidents, and Taft was generally considered to be fair-to-middling, this might not have been much of a loss.

And remember when a couple votes from progressives thrown Ralph Nader's way in Florida (at least, that's what people say) led to Dubya getting elected?

Therefore, we're stuck with this bullshit system. And it's actually considered a law in political science.

[Chad32]

She would have been better. Not good, but better. Still, she isn't an "imperfect friend". She's just a less shitty candidate, whose poll numbers seem to go down the longer she's in the public eye.

But I don't really want to go on about Hillary anymore. She's done. she needs to go away, so the democrats can run a candidate that's actually capable of beating Trump with the electoral college. We need a popular candidate. A progressive candidate. Someone who doesn't take big donor money.

[FFaith]

So I did some looking around on youtube to find out what you were on about.  I found this from the Young Turks:






First of all, thank you 'young turks' for the false equivocation between Trump being dangerous but Hillary also being dangerous.  Not being afraid to use deadly force where needed is a far cry from 'bat shit crazy'.  Not sure if you have any clear idea of what crazy looks like but it isn't Hillary Clinton.

Are these clowns the reason you found Hillary to be unvotable?  Thank you so much for your help in giving us the maniac we have now.  I wonder how many people just down load opinions from these kinds of jokers?

Wait, did you just agree that Assange should be drone striked or am I reading that wrong? And no, I don't like the Young Turks at all. They are SJW garbage, and are not real alternative media as millions have been invested into them, but I do watch them sometimes to see what nonsense they are pushing. They actually did a decent job reporting on that story though.