Star Trek Discovery, your thoughts?

[Amarok]

The degenerated Klingons  a result of using human DNA to cure a horrible virus that threatened to wipe the Klingon race . 

Not actually canon. Roddenberry himself the lack of ridgy Klingons in TOS was due to budget and makeup limitations.

It's another idiocy brought to you by Berman and Braga retconning an explanation they didn't need into Duchess Archer and Friends.

Umm yes it is ... 

Just because Roddenberry didn't write it doesn't make it not canon . As for the explanation ones behind the scenes the other is in universe .

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I would dearly love it if those people responsible for the Star Trek universe would all get together, decide what the fuck Klingons are supposed to look like, and stick with it. 

Boru

[Aroura]

I would dearly love it if those people responsible for the Star Trek universe would all get together, decide what the fuck Klingons are supposed to look like, and stick with it. 

Boru

Make up and prosthetics continue to advance. I'd be pretty disappointed if the show still looked like it was 1990. Or 1963.

I'm a big fan of TOS, and also TNG. I also enjoyed both Voyager and DS9. I never got into Enterprise, I didn't even really try.

I try not to get lost in nostalgia, however, or let it too strongly color new imaginings of old things. I am not a big fan of the new universe, many of the criticisms leveled at it are just. That being said, many more are deeply bias, and I don't dislike it for it being different alone. Some things are actually very good and quite enjoyable.

So I found time to watch the first part of the first episode on Netflix. I rather liked it, though I'm not utterly hooked. After the initial, wtf moment of seeing the new Klingons passed, I thought they were actually better. I mean, culturally we are seeing more complex Klingons, not just " die with honor" 2 dimensional enemies with vague motives. I enjoyed their deeper culture in TNG and in The Undiscovered Country, this looks to be delving even deeper. So I have no complaints there.

I'll have to watch a few more episodes to fully judge it, but I enjoyed it as it is so far.

[Iroscato]

I highly enjoyed it. No it does not resemble TOS in any way shape or form visually, but that aesthetic wouldn't work in a 2017 series with an obviously large budget. It had an interesting take on the Klingons and a more humanised perspective in the shape of Burnham. I'm definitely up for more.

[Fake Messiah]

Or give us Captain Sulu of the Excelsior. That's the only retro-Trek I'd accept.

Considering that this new ST show will supposedly every season different story in different timeframe maybe they could make one season to be Captain Sulu of the Excelsior.

[GUBU]

Not actually canon. Roddenberry himself the lack of ridgy Klingons in TOS was due to budget and makeup limitations.

It's another idiocy brought to you by Berman and Braga retconning an explanation they didn't need into Duchess Archer and Friends.

Umm yes it is ... 

Just because Roddenberry didn't write it doesn't make it not canon . As for the explanation ones behind the scenes the other is in universe .

There's less canon in Enterprise than in the DC comicsverse.

[Foxaèr]

I have never particularly been a fan of Star Trek, but the general consensus on another forum is that it's not worth watching and not because one must have cable to view it on CBS All Access.

[ignoramus]

Agree with Iro and Aurora.
Was expecting a B grade excuse for ST like Enterprise and instead got an A-

Not the most cerebral of ST, but visually nice.
God damn it ST, give us something to think about, not just an action flick to look at, or you'll lose us a second time.
We're not getting any younger.

[vorlon13]

How many permutations of Klingons and what they do and how the Federation interacts with them do we need to see ??

Their have been two 

The degenerated Klingons  a result of using human DNA to cure a horrible virus that threatened to wipe the Klingon race . 









The post and pre Degenerate Klingons before the virus and after the Klingons figured out how to fix the problem 







As for why we need Klingons there one of the big three powers in the Alpha/Beta quadrant .

We've had Klingons and:

Tribbles
Romulans
Spies
Traitors
Worf's honor
Worf's dishonor
Worf's kid
Worf's parents
Klingon religious pilgrims in the Delta Quadrant
Klingon's and the Genesis Project
Worf's girlfriend
Holographic Klingon's tormenting the EMH
Klingon immune system
Worf exploring the many worlds hypothesis
Worf being insulted by Q
Worf confronting paralysis
Worf devolving
Pink Klingon blood
Klingons on Organia
Klingons being exploited by Vidiians
Klingon dating human
Klingon marrying a human
Klingon building a 1950s TV set out of replicated parts
Klingon in the Maquis
Klingon moon exploding
Klingon having sex with a Talaxian
Klingon body odor
Klingon cuisine
Klingon's eating caviar
Klingons getting lucky with chemical rockets
Klingons influenced by gaseous alien
Klingons detecting antineutrino flux
Klingons disarmed while transporting
Klingon cloaking device
Klingon redundant internal organs
Klingons self destructing their own space ship
Klingon boarding party
Klingon pain rituals
Klingon coffee
Klingon archaic weapons
Klingon barge of the dead
Klingon adoption
Klingon pets
Klingon sexy seniors
Fat Klingon
Klingon rebellious offspring
Klingon sisters
Horny Klingon sisters
Klingon sisters with bad teeth
Klingon sisters working with Romulans
Klingon perfidy
Klingon space craft crushed in gas giant atmosphere
Klingon shot in cornfield
Klingon costumes at SciFi conventions
Klingon binge episode weekends
Klingon pollution
Klingon prison planet
Klingon judicial proceedings
Klingon abandoned city
Klingon holodeck
Klingon ship with alien ship hiding in exhaust
Klingon contractor
Klingon Batleth contests
Klingon target shooting derelict US spacecraft
Klingon photon torpedoes
Klingon shields
Klingon corridors
Klingon diplomats
Klingon names that sound like constipation remedies
Klingon anger
Klingon on rage
Klingon rage disorder
Klingon robes
Klingon spies with human collaborators
Klingon ship carrying whales
Klingon ship in Golden Gate Park
Klingon fighting the Borg
Klingon duplicated by a shape shifter
Klingon harassing Federation communication station

[Anomalocaris]

Their have been two 

The degenerated Klingons  a result of using human DNA to cure a horrible virus that threatened to wipe the Klingon race . 









The post and pre Degenerate Klingons before the virus and after the Klingons figured out how to fix the problem 







As for why we need Klingons there one of the big three powers in the Alpha/Beta quadrant .

We've had Klingons and:

Tribbles
Romulans
Spies
Traitors
Worf's honor
Worf's dishonor
Worf's kid
Worf's parents
Klingon religious pilgrims in the Delta Quadrant
Klingon's and the Genesis Project
Worf's girlfriend
Holographic Klingon's tormenting the EMH
Klingon immune system
Worf exploring the many worlds hypothesis
Worf being insulted by Q
Worf confronting paralysis
Worf devolving
Pink Klingon blood
Klingons on Organia
Klingons being exploited by Vidiians
Klingon dating human
Klingon marrying a human
Klingon building a 1950s TV set out of replicated parts
Klingon in the Maquis
Klingon moon exploding
Klingon having sex with a Talaxian
Klingon body odor
Klingon cuisine
Klingon's eating caviar
Klingons getting lucky with chemical rockets
Klingons influenced by gaseous alien
Klingons detecting antineutrino flux
Klingons disarmed while transporting
Klingon cloaking device
Klingon redundant internal organs
Klingons self destructing their own space ship
Klingon boarding party
Klingon pain rituals
Klingon coffee
Klingon archaic weapons
Klingon barge of the dead
Klingon adoption
Klingon pets
Klingon sexy seniors
Fat Klingon
Klingon rebellious offspring
Klingon sisters
Horny Klingon sisters
Klingon sisters with bad teeth
Klingon sisters working with Romulans
Klingon perfidy
Klingon space craft crushed in gas giant atmosphere
Klingon shot in cornfield
Klingon costumes at SciFi conventions
Klingon binge episode weekends
Klingon pollution
Klingon prison planet
Klingon judicial proceedings
Klingon abandoned city

That’s too many Klingons.