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RE: Damned Catholics
September 28, 2015 at 10:23 am
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(September 28, 2015 at 9:26 am)Little Rik Wrote: It is well known that religions always act as mediators between God and the people in order to control the masses and profit but it can not be said that God does not exist.
Really? So Aztec and Mayan priests were sacrificing men and boys in the tens of thousands, engaging in cannibalism and offering gifts of blood to the sun as a way of mediating between the people and the one "God"? So were eclipses actually a response from God to the Mayans? Or was that a misconception? What about witch burnings? Or religiously mandated genocide? Why is it exclusively "God" that can't be said to not exist? Can't the same be said of Quetzalcoatl or Zeus or Ra or Nyarlathotep?
Religions vandalized the figure of an hypothetical God so it is more and more difficult for anyone to believe in God.
What does that even mean? Are you suggesting that the "One God" concept predates the polytheistic religions? The tribal gods? What about paleolithic spiritualism? The One God was around before that?
So the paleolithic hunter-gatherers who lived simple lives, ate berries, respected nature and all that, they were just spitting in God's face, right?
But the Tribal Death God who demands genocide and rape, who seals bargains with human sacrifice, that's the good one.
Considering the consistently horrendous stuff that religions all over the world engage in, I have to assume this God fellow is one evil bastard.
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RE: Damned Catholics
September 28, 2015 at 11:50 am
(September 28, 2015 at 9:05 am)Little Rik Wrote: (September 27, 2015 at 1:23 pm)Minimalist Wrote: No you dumb fuck. 'God' is the product which religion invents and sells to gullible morons. Look in a mirror for an example.
Idiot.
You make claim after claim and when people ask you to produce evidence about your claims you make one more claim telling that religions invent God.
How ignorant can you be!
You reach the lowest level of stupidity.
And yet, only one of us believes in 'gods'. Grow up, sonny. You're on your own with no sky-daddy watching you.
And fuck your pope, too.
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RE: Damned Catholics
September 28, 2015 at 12:38 pm
(September 27, 2015 at 9:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Lev 20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Priest 1: "Good thing that he’s a boy, and not a man." Priest 2: "And, If god thinks that we’re homosexuals, we can just confess our sins to each other. That should fool him."
Fuck those pricks.
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' -Isaac Asimov-
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RE: Damned Catholics
September 29, 2015 at 9:12 am
(September 28, 2015 at 9:55 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: (September 28, 2015 at 9:47 am)Little Rik Wrote: You make one claim Sofa.
You say that there are thousand of Gods.
Of course if you listen to what religions say it really look like there are so many Gods
but to listen to religions it is like to listen to the media when they portrait someone as a criminal before
that person is found guilty.
I have to ask you the same question i just ask Pyrrho.
Did you fall in the trap and listen to speculation or you act as an intelligent person and
make up your mind based on evidence or not evidence?
I didn't make a claim
Yes, you did indeed by saying that there are thousand of Gods.
Quote:I asked you a question, which once again you have spectacularly failed to answer.
I am going to answer your question in a sec.
In the meantime i remind you that you fail to answer my question which was...... Did you fall in the trap and listen to speculation or you act as an intelligent person and make up your mind based on evidence or not evidence?
This question related to whether you think that God if ever exist is rubbish because religions are rubbish or you separate the two and judge individually on their own merit or failing.
Quote:There is no evidence for any God Rikmeister, not as I have seen it. Hence me not believing in God. That "Atheist" line in my profile is a dead give away.
You can well say that YOU personally have no evidence but you can not say that there is no evidence at all.
Few hundreds years ago if you would say that man could fly and go on the moon nobody would believe.
Give time.
Sooner or later when man will realize that over the border of this limited universe there is something much greater then the intellectuals will stop masturbating their brains and grow up to a new reality.
Quote:Now, answer my questions, how is it that you know God? What special evidence do you have, that I do not? Also, which God do you believe in?
I have explained dozen and dozen of times about this that is why i feel tired of answering the same question again and again.
God is within.
I am God, you are God, everything is God.
There is nothing outside God.
There is only one God and that God is me, you and everything that exist.
To find God is very easy and very hard at the same time.
It is easy because by realizing that you are God you open up your consciousness creating a parallelism
between your actual status and the supreme status and when a perfect parallelism exist you merge in the ocean of infinite consciousness.
It is hard because this involve a lot of hard work both physically and mentally.
The evidence is that this opening of consciousness give more peace of mind and good feeling as you reduce the distance or radius that separate you from the whole.
By knowing that the bliss come from within you know that God is within unlike religions that think that God is outside or externally.
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RE: Damned Catholics
September 29, 2015 at 9:19 am
(September 29, 2015 at 9:12 am)Little Rik Wrote: I have explained dozen and dozen of times about this that is why i feel tired of answering the same question again and again.
God is within.
You need to take your own advice. If you're confused about what I'm referring to, please consult your words in pink above.
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RE: Damned Catholics
September 29, 2015 at 9:33 am
(September 28, 2015 at 10:23 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: (September 28, 2015 at 9:26 am)Little Rik Wrote: It is well known that religions always act as mediators between God and the people in order to control the masses and profit but it can not be said that God does not exist.
Really? So Aztec and Mayan priests were sacrificing men and boys in the tens of thousands, engaging in cannibalism and offering gifts of blood to the sun as a way of mediating between the people and the one "God"? So were eclipses actually a response from God to the Mayans? Or was that a misconception? What about witch burnings? Or religiously mandated genocide? Why is it exclusively "God" that can't be said to not exist? Can't the same be said of Quetzalcoatl or Zeus or Ra or Nyarlathotep?
Religions vandalized the figure of an hypothetical God so it is more and more difficult for anyone to believe in God.
What does that even mean? Are you suggesting that the "One God" concept predates the polytheistic religions? The tribal gods? What about paleolithic spiritualism? The One God was around before that?
So the paleolithic hunter-gatherers who lived simple lives, ate berries, respected nature and all that, they were just spitting in God's face, right?
But the Tribal Death God who demands genocide and rape, who seals bargains with human sacrifice, that's the good one.
Considering the consistently horrendous stuff that religions all over the world engage in, I have to assume this God fellow is one evil bastard.
God never asked or authorized the priests to mediate.
Are the caste of priests that decided to become intermediaries.
God would never punish innocent people.
If you think that religions are following God you are miles and miles away from the truth.
When i say........ .It is well known that religions always act as mediators between God and the people...... that doesn't mean that God gave the ok. for the religions to act on his name.
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RE: Damned Catholics
September 29, 2015 at 9:42 am
(September 29, 2015 at 9:19 am)Cato Wrote: (September 29, 2015 at 9:12 am)Little Rik Wrote: I have explained dozen and dozen of times about this that is why i feel tired of answering the same question again and again.
God is within.
You need to take your own advice. If you're confused about what I'm referring to, please consult your words in pink above.
Intellectuals are losers by nature.
They wrongly think that with their intellect they can solve problems but as one problem is soved another one pop up in a never end show.
In this way they get nowhere.
Love on the other hand get you at the goal of life but you wouldn't have a clue where the goal of life is.
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RE: Damned Catholics
September 29, 2015 at 9:48 am
(September 28, 2015 at 11:50 am)Minimalist Wrote: (September 28, 2015 at 9:05 am)Little Rik Wrote: Idiot.
You make claim after claim and when people ask you to produce evidence about your claims you make one more claim telling that religions invent God.
How ignorant can you be!
You reach the lowest level of stupidity.
And yet, only one of us believes in 'gods'. Grow up, sonny. You're on your own with no sky-daddy watching you.
And fuck your pope, too.
Just as i already knew.
You are full of bullshit.
Claim after claim but when i ask you for evidence to support these claims you change story.
Go back in your pit, idiot.
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RE: Damned Catholics
September 29, 2015 at 9:56 am
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God never asked or authorized the priests to mediate.
Kinda did though.
Are the caste of priests that decided to become intermediaries.
What?
God would never punish innocent people.
True, punishment implies a crime was committed.
God punishes the wicked, the innocent he merely torments.
If you think that religions are following God you are miles and miles away from the truth.
I love the convenience of a vague platitude, they provide a very brief yet sufficient display of an individual's wisdom, like those free samples they give out in ice cream parlors.
I wish you had begun with that sentence and saved me the time I spent replying to the statements above.
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RE: Damned Catholics
September 29, 2015 at 10:48 am
(September 29, 2015 at 9:42 am)Little Rik Wrote: Intellectuals are losers by nature.
I guess you should stop using that computer some egghead designed, then.
And cars. And medicine. And indoor plumbing.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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