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Bible reading
#11
RE: Bible reading
Quote:The various interpreations of what is sayed in the bible comes from the fact that everyone perceives the world differently(not referring to a scientifical point of view).

You'd think that a "god" could do better in getting his point across, wouldn't you?
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#12
RE: Bible reading
(October 15, 2017 at 6:47 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:

One might say that it wasn't missinterpretation but intentionaly wanting people to be dumb so they could be controled wich is a possibility.


Where are you from, notimportant?  I applaud people who are multi-lingual - I'm not.  But your spelling is a bit of a challenge.
Wanting people to be dumb so they could be controlled "wich is a possibility"?  Not a possibility.  A historical fact.  The Church kept the Mass and the Bible in Latin deliberately for centuries - and they kept the vast majority of the population illiterate.  The population had to believe whatever the priests told them.  It kept the Church in power.  This period is now known as the "Dark Ages".
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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#13
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(October 15, 2017 at 12:16 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:The various interpreations of what is sayed in the bible comes from the fact that everyone perceives the world differently(not referring to a scientifical point of view).

You'd think that a "god" could do better in getting his point across, wouldn't you?

Omniscience otta make it pretty damn easy.

What are we missing here ?
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#14
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"We" aren't missing anything.  Bible-thumpers on the other hand.
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#15
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(October 15, 2017 at 5:14 am)ignoramus Wrote: [Image: 1xn1dh.jpg]

Facepalm

"Thine holy son" and "thy posterior". It really shouldn't be this hard.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#16
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Mate! I'm Australian! We don't even speak normal English, you expect me to know old English! Crickey!

Big Grin

Eg, you say: Why has thou forsaken me?
Beccs, LL, myself and others here say:

Why'd ya fuck me around for ya prick?
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#17
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Ahem...

Hast, not has.

Angel
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#18
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That bloody Stimbo! He hast all the answers!




Big Grin
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#19
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I'm not entirely sure that it is atheists that has a different interpretation of the Bible in the way that we don't really interpret it for the same reasons the christians interpret it. In a sense I think that atheists read the Bible more literally than any religious person tends to do these days. Because in order to survive in the modern enlightened world christians have had to give up most of the literal interpretations, the values, and the stories in their book because they are so incompatible with modern science, morality and society. So christians, in order to stay relevant, have been forced to make up excuses for what is written in their scripture. Make up symbolic meanings and tap dance and cherry pick so that the bile in that book is hidden and muddled from view. Having to do that opens the floodgates for as many interpretations as there are people which naturally leads to schisms and disagreement which is probably why Christianity is so shattered as it is today. And they probably try their hardest not to notice that, like they cherry pick in their scripture they say that since they all believe in the same god it'll probably be fine in the end and such excuses.
But as atheists we can read the bible for what it is and call them out on the nasty things in it, which they hate and rarely have a good response too.
I think one could almost say that atheists and fundamentalist christians are the only ones that read the bible for what it actually says.
"History is something that very few people have been doing while everyone else was ploughing fields and carrying water buckets." -Yuval Noah Harari
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#20
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(October 14, 2017 at 11:04 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: Considering the many (I owe this to vorlon) schisms within christianity due to how one schism interprets scripture as opposed to another schism's interpretation, is it truly any wonder that atheists interpret scripture differently than religious people?

How does the christian logically process schisms within the same religion if god was so precise and clear in his message to the people?

Furthermore, if varied interpretation accomplishes to divide, does that not cancel out religion's claim to unite people?

In short Christ said all of the law has been compressed to two rules/commands under him.

Love your lord god with all of your being. (heart, mind, spirit and strength.)

The second is to love your neighbor as your self.

Now because we are all alittle bit different. our expression of complete and total love to God will be a little bit different. For instance if I was given the gift to sing and write songs then my worship service would depend heavily on that. those who don't have any musical talent would then find themselves waisting time in a worship service like that. Let's say your group has a limited understanding of the freedom and grace of God so they tend to be legalists. meaning people who closly and tightly follow each letter of the law as their means to worship God with all of their being... They would then schism from the music lovers because their works and law worship would not afford them time to to sing songs all day long. Then lets say my wife's group can't sing nor can wrap their minds around legalism. rather she know and enjoys a more complete understand of the freedom we have from the law in Christ, and live and serves in a way that would cause a legalist to stumple in their faith...

Do you get it? the law completed is to love God with all tht we have. not to a specific bar or level of understanding. if we have been given more we are to try and understand and worship more. not all can some are left behind because their capasity will not allow them to proceed any further.
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