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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
October 20, 2017 at 6:24 am
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(October 20, 2017 at 6:18 am)Mathilda Wrote: I love the fact that there are more people left handed in the UK now than there are regular church-going Christians.
Very sinister.
(Most people won't get that.)
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
October 20, 2017 at 10:53 am
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(October 20, 2017 at 5:59 am)Mathilda Wrote: (October 20, 2017 at 5:25 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:
And that's why there are books on the subject:
Lesbianism made easy
You can't be a proper lesbian until you have read this book. If you try lezzing out without reading the prerequisite books then you aren't considered a real a lesbian, just a wannabe.
(October 19, 2017 at 7:02 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
Mathilda!! I've never heard of that book!! OMG I'm not a proper lesbo! Must . . . buy . . . book . . . Ha! Thanks.
MK when he gets a little older:
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
October 20, 2017 at 11:52 am
(October 19, 2017 at 7:02 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The very reason why we have a debate about whether it is a choice or not, shows, most humans would not have a shadow of a doubt that is evil if free-will is involved.
But is there reason to believe if it is evil if free-will is involved, that free-will cannot be involved in it? Everything shows the opposite, what free-will can possibly do of evil, is possible in our realms of human choice.
This is the reality. If we start saying well some evils are possibly evil if free-will is involved, but free-will cannot touch it. Then I'm sorry, it makes no sense. How do we know what is evil if done by free-will, is through knowledge of good and evil.
And what is possibly evil by free-will, is also possible of free-will to put in place.
The Quran puts in the worst context possible. It shows it in the most ugly possible picture. A society that practically all of them have preferred men over women, that is not natural at all.
Sure if they remain an unsignificant minority, people can say what harm but Quran shows in a possibility, that society had given in to a over all trend or fad, and had become homosexual.
It doesn't have to prove that it actually happened to prove it as evil. It just shows it in the possible realms of evil, these people were being gay because of social pressure and trend to be gay.
So it shows a possible motive for free-will to make it evil.
And perhaps in minorities, there are other factors then that make it free-will but are evil as well.
To make homosexuality the exception to the rule, that it would be evil if free-will is involved, but free-will cannot be possibly involved, is what requires proof.
Otherwise, what has been stated is clear and this reasoning is clear and sufficient to break the deceptions of secular society and their insincere quest in defining good and evil.
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
October 20, 2017 at 12:02 pm
Dude there is literally no pressure on guys to be gay. Even if there was it's not like I could be like "No more looking at women buns and boobies for me, just pecs and cocks now!"
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
October 20, 2017 at 12:19 pm
A persons sexual preference is no one else's business if both partners are consenting adults.
Why are theists so obsessed with other peoples sex lives?
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
October 20, 2017 at 12:20 pm
(October 20, 2017 at 12:19 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: A persons sexual preference is no one else's business if both partners are consenting adults.
Why are theists so obsessed with other peoples sex lives?
It allows them to parley their own self loathing into self aggrandizement.
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
October 20, 2017 at 12:25 pm
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
October 20, 2017 at 1:27 pm
(October 20, 2017 at 12:25 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:
That is *seriously* messed up. If only Islam could take a healthier, saner attitude towards sex -- Ah, but then it wouldn't be able channel all that sexual repression into worship and blind obedience, now, would it?
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
October 20, 2017 at 1:41 pm
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(October 19, 2017 at 7:02 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The very reason why we have a debate about whether it is a choice or not, shows, most humans would not have a shadow of a doubt that is evil if free-will is involved.
But is there reason to believe if it is evil if free-will is involved, that free-will cannot be involved in it? Everything shows the opposite, what free-will can possibly do of evil, is possible in our realms of human choice.
This is the reality. If we start saying well some evils are possibly evil if free-will is involved, but free-will cannot touch it. Then I'm sorry, it makes no sense. How do we know what is evil if done by free-will, is through knowledge of good and evil.
And what is possibly evil by free-will, is also possible of free-will to put in place.
The Quran puts in the worst context possible. It shows it in the most ugly possible picture. A society that practically all of them have preferred men over women, that is not natural at all.
Sure if they remain an unsignificant minority, people can say what harm but Quran shows in a possibility, that society had given in to a over all trend or fad, and had become homosexual.
It doesn't have to prove that it actually happened to prove it as evil. It just shows it in the possible realms of evil, these people were being gay because of social pressure and trend to be gay.
So it shows a possible motive for free-will to make it evil.
And perhaps in minorities, there are other factors then that make it free-will but are evil as well.
To make homosexuality the exception to the rule, that it would be evil if free-will is involved, but free-will cannot be possibly involved, is what requires proof.
Otherwise, what has been stated is clear and this reasoning is clear and sufficient to break the deceptions of secular society and their insincere quest in defining good and evil. Why is it that people feel the need to interfere in other peoples life choices?
I like the ladies, but I see no reason why people who like men cant have what I have with my wife with another person who feels the same way.
Who am I to judge anothers life choice and who is this mohammed guy to decide what is right and wrong?
I always have a feeling that the people who rail against these sort of things harbour feelings that way themselves against which they struggle.
(October 20, 2017 at 6:24 am)Cyberman Wrote: (October 20, 2017 at 6:18 am)Mathilda Wrote: I love the fact that there are more people left handed in the UK now than there are regular church-going Christians.
Very sinister.
(Most people won't get that.)
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RE: Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.
October 20, 2017 at 1:44 pm
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