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RE: Mueller Makes The First Move
October 28, 2017 at 12:28 pm
(October 28, 2017 at 12:05 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: (October 28, 2017 at 10:07 am)Divinity Wrote: Even if Trump is impeached, we get President Pence, who's just as bad. He just makes it sound prettier. Which may make him worse.
Still, would be nice to see Donny going to Jail. Along with his little brats, and most of his cabinet. Throw Pence in too for complicity, and most of the Republican party who let this sham go on for so long.
I think Pence would be utterly ineffective. It would be like the oval office being vacant until the next election. Not a good situation but he would be considerably less likely to use nuclear weapons haphazardly. He wouldn't empower the bigots and other idiots like Trump does and he wouldn't be as bad of an embarrassment to the rest of the world.
"Ineffective" is a much better option than an asshole who has pulled the pin on a live grenade. Pence is more like the moron who has a dud grenade nor has a desire to pull it out of spite.
Pence may be an asshole, but I don't see him as suicidal.
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RE: Mueller Makes The First Move
October 28, 2017 at 12:31 pm
(October 28, 2017 at 12:28 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (October 28, 2017 at 12:05 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: I think Pence would be utterly ineffective. It would be like the oval office being vacant until the next election. Not a good situation but he would be considerably less likely to use nuclear weapons haphazardly. He wouldn't empower the bigots and other idiots like Trump does and he wouldn't be as bad of an embarrassment to the rest of the world.
"Ineffective" is a much better option than an asshole who has pulled the pin on a live grenade. Pence is more like the moron who has a dud grenade nor has a desire to pull it out of spite.
Pence may be an asshole, but I don't see him as suicidal.
You effectively have no president now. His every horrifying move is being blocked by more sound heads who are just letting him rant on twitter.
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RE: Mueller Makes The First Move
October 28, 2017 at 1:36 pm
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(October 27, 2017 at 11:48 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: That's crazy! Doesn't Mueller understand that there's nothing there, that it's all fake news? LMFAO!
It's a shame that Monday at work already looks like it's going to be busy. I would love to call in sick and soak it all up that day.
New guy here,: I think it's an absolute disgrace what Crooked Hillary is doing to our greatest hero and patriot Donald Trump. She shouldn't have set her attack dogs, Comey and Mueller on him. After all with his victory he won independence for this great nation.
(October 28, 2017 at 12:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (October 28, 2017 at 12:00 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Just to be annoyingly pedantic, if Trump is impeached, he won't necessarily be removed from office. An impeachment is simply a formal accusation of a crime committed, similar to an indictment. Trump would have to stand trial on the charges in the impeachment and be convicted before he could be booted.
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I am a pragmatist.
Prison would be great. But all I really want is for him for the investigation get too close to him, or his family to the point he cops out to some "health problem" and steps down.
Nixon didn't spend a day in prison but what 45 has done is far worse, just on the rhetoric alone.
45 is really scummy. I would not surprise me one bit if he threw his children under the bus to keep his job.
No Trump needs to be in for the long haul, either convicted or defenestrated by his own party. If he steps down without being pushed Pence could have power still, and the party possibly avoid civl war.
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RE: Mueller Makes The First Move
October 30, 2017 at 9:01 am
(October 28, 2017 at 8:32 am)DLJ Wrote:
It's going to be difficult to stifle a chortle, nay a guffaw, if it's "Would you mind coming along with us, Mr. Podesta?"
Are you chortling now that it's Manafort? I am.
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RE: Mueller Makes The First Move
October 30, 2017 at 9:30 am
Manafort and Gates are turning themselves in even as I post this . . .
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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RE: Mueller Makes The First Move
October 30, 2017 at 9:35 am
(October 30, 2017 at 9:01 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 28, 2017 at 8:32 am)DLJ Wrote:
It's going to be difficult to stifle a chortle, nay a guffaw, if it's "Would you mind coming along with us, Mr. Podesta?"
Are you chortling now that it's Manafort? I am.
Boru
Nah. There's no humour in that. Where's the unpredictability? Where's the irony?
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RE: Mueller Makes The First Move
October 30, 2017 at 11:53 am
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(October 28, 2017 at 12:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 28, 2017 at 12:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I am a pragmatist.
Prison would be great. But all I really want is for him for the investigation get too close to him, or his family to the point he cops out to some "health problem" and steps down.
Nixon didn't spend a day in prison but what 45 has done is far worse, just on the rhetoric alone.
45 is really scummy. I would not surprise me one bit if he threw his children under the bus to keep his job.
You've mentioned this a couple of times. What - specifically - has Trump done that is 'far worse'?
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He's a mobbed-up lying scumbag and has been since the 80's.
https://newrepublic.com/article/143253/t...-president
Quote:Trump Is a Mobster President
Quote:The mafia analogies aren’t just casual gibes, but speak to something fundamental in Trump’s background and character. In his younger days, Trump was mentored by Roy Cohn, a mob lawyer, and he consorted with criminals, notably convicted felon Felix Sater. Trump’s record shows “repeated social and business dealings with mobsters, swindlers, and other crooks,” David Cay Johnston, who has extensively investigated Trump’s mafia ties, wrote in Politico last year, and “Trump’s career has benefited from a decades-long and largely successful effort to limit and deflect law enforcement investigations into his dealings with top mobsters, organized crime associates, labor fixers, corrupt union leaders, con artists and even a one-time drug trafficker whom Trump retained as the head of his personal helicopter service.”
This is not news to New Yorkers who were well aware of the WLB's criminal connections. Why do you think Hillary crushed him in his "home state" 59 to 36%?
It's only the assholes who didn't know him that fell for his bullshit.
Now this is very well done.
It's Mueller Time!
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RE: Mueller Makes The First Move
October 30, 2017 at 12:59 pm
(October 28, 2017 at 12:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 28, 2017 at 12:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I am a pragmatist.
Prison would be great. But all I really want is for him for the investigation get too close to him, or his family to the point he cops out to some "health problem" and steps down.
Nixon didn't spend a day in prison but what 45 has done is far worse, just on the rhetoric alone.
45 is really scummy. I would not surprise me one bit if he threw his children under the bus to keep his job.
You've mentioned this a couple of times. What - specifically - has Trump done that is 'far worse'?
Boru
Can you not read?
His rhetoric is TOXIC in politics. I am tired of people confusing legal with moral.
He does not talk like a diplomat, nor a western leader. He talks like a despot. He has been talking like that for 5 years.
50 REPUBLICAN former law agents warned us of him LAST YEAR.
I am quite sure he knew about the interference. If an asshole can brag about ripping off university investors and dare the Russians to interfere in our election while running for office, it does not take a slide rule.
AND impeachment isn't written in for just criminal acts, it is ALSO there to remove someone who is NOT FIT.
He is UNFIT and that is the bottom line.
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RE: Mueller Makes The First Move
October 30, 2017 at 2:09 pm
(October 30, 2017 at 11:53 am)Minimalist Wrote: (October 28, 2017 at 12:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You've mentioned this a couple of times. What - specifically - has Trump done that is 'far worse'?
Boru
He's a mobbed-up lying scumbag and has been since the 80's.
https://newrepublic.com/article/143253/t...-president
Quote:Trump Is a Mobster President
Quote:The mafia analogies aren’t just casual gibes, but speak to something fundamental in Trump’s background and character. In his younger days, Trump was mentored by Roy Cohn, a mob lawyer, and he consorted with criminals, notably convicted felon Felix Sater. Trump’s record shows “repeated social and business dealings with mobsters, swindlers, and other crooks,” David Cay Johnston, who has extensively investigated Trump’s mafia ties, wrote in Politico last year, and “Trump’s career has benefited from a decades-long and largely successful effort to limit and deflect law enforcement investigations into his dealings with top mobsters, organized crime associates, labor fixers, corrupt union leaders, con artists and even a one-time drug trafficker whom Trump retained as the head of his personal helicopter service.”
This is not news to New Yorkers who were well aware of the WLB's criminal connections. Why do you think Hillary crushed him in his "home state" 59 to 36%?
It's only the assholes who didn't know him that fell for his bullshit.
Now this is very well done.
It's Mueller Time!
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RE: Mueller Makes The First Move
October 30, 2017 at 2:42 pm
Borowitz:
Yes, bittersweet but good times are coming.
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz...YxMjI2NgS2
Quote:Millions Disappointed It Wasn’t Jared
Quote:Amid the general jubilation over the arrest of Paul Manafort on Monday, millions of Americans reported extreme disappointment that the first person arrested from Robert Mueller’s Russia probe was not Jared Kushner.
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