Not religious doesn't necessarily mean atheist

[Cod]

This century is trying to redefine every word from their original definitions. And what do atheists do, they just look up current dictionaries, and think they understood a long tradition and understanding of a word.

So when you feel happy and carefree make sure you tell everyone you are feeling gay.

[Mystic]

Everyone has a religion. You would have to redefine religion from their primary meaning in the past to escape this fact.

This century is trying to redefine every word from their original definitions. And what do atheists do, they just look up current dictionaries, and think they understood a long tradition and understanding of a word.

Everyone has that which is necessary to make meaning and find purpose in life.  Not everyone draws on what is commonly known as "religion".  If you mean to redefine religion as "whatever one uses to make meaning and find purpose in life", then of course you would be correct even though you would have said nothing at all.

It says a lot. It says you guys want to make yourself different, but really you are not all too different.  You value something above all else (whatever that is, is a god to you), you try to finding meaning in that, and you have your way of defining right and wrong, and have your way of explaining life. There is nothing different. You have a creed, a religion, an ideology, a way of life, and you have a god or gods among many gods.  And you centre your attention on people you don't know for sure are worth that attention just like all false religions do.
This is what it proves.

[FatAndFaithless]

You're just redefining words in whatever way to want to make it so we all have a 'religion' even though no accepted definition of religion matches what you're saying. You aren't just defining a god into existence, you're defining religions into existence. If I love my family over everything else, my family sure as shit isn't a 'god'.

[Mystic]

You're just redefining words in whatever way to want to make it so we all have a 'religion' even though no accepted definition of religion matches what you're saying.  You aren't just defining a god into existence, you're defining religions into existence.  If I love my family over everything else, my family sure as shit isn't a 'god'.

I am 100% sure the way Quran defines worship and false gods, Atheists have them, and I same sure the way Quran defines religion, Atheists have one.   This century is redefining everything, I could care less.

[FatAndFaithless]

You're just redefining words in whatever way to want to make it so we all have a 'religion' even though no accepted definition of religion matches what you're saying.  You aren't just defining a god into existence, you're defining religions into existence.  If I love my family over everything else, my family sure as shit isn't a 'god'.

I am 100% sure the way Quran defines worship and false gods, Atheists have them, and I same sure the way Quran defines religion, Atheists have one.   This century is redefining everything, I could care less.

So you say I have a religion and point to the Quran, whose authority I don't recognize and could not care less about.  What a conversation.

[Mystic]

I am 100% sure the way Quran defines worship and false gods, Atheists have them, and I same sure the way Quran defines religion, Atheists have one.   This century is redefining everything, I could care less.

So you say I have a religion and point to the Quran, whose authority I don't recognize and could not care less about.  What a conversation.

Whatever you say about Quran, it captured language at a primordial time and froze it.  That is up to you to reflect about as far as our conversation is going.

[Whateverist]

You're just redefining words in whatever way to want to make it so we all have a 'religion' even though no accepted definition of religion matches what you're saying.  You aren't just defining a god into existence, you're defining religions into existence.  If I love my family over everything else, my family sure as shit isn't a 'god'.

I am 100% sure the way Quran defines worship and false gods, Atheists have them, and I same sure the way Quran defines religion, Atheists have one.   This century is redefining everything, I could care less.

This century feels the same way about what you do or do not care about.

[The Grand Nudger]

Captured language at a primordial time......600ad-ish?  

We'd already been writing for four thousand years at that point Mystic.  Civilization itself was ten thousand years old at that point.  Human beings identical to you and I had been wandering around for -at least- fifty thousand years by that point.

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I'm having fun with this idea.  If the span of time since full modernity (a drop in the bucket of time, really) were conceptualized as a calendar- and today was December 31st on that calendar: Islam was invented ten days ago, on December 21st.  

I would have expected something "primordial" to be a wee bit closer to january.

[KevinM1]

One would think a Muslim would know about the history of the region. Sumer existed in what we consider Iraq today. They had writing somewhere around 3500-3300 BC. Their civilization lasted over 2000 years. It's kinda a well known thing, with some of their myths still present today (Gilgamesh and Enkidu, for example).

I mean, I learned this shit in 7th grade, in a little school in NH. It's basic knowledge.

[Astreja]

I wonder how much of Islam's history was deliberately destroyed over the past 1400 years or so. It wouldn't be the first time a dominant religion wreaked havoc with preexisting cultures in an attempt to erase them, and it won't be the last time.

I say again: Language evolves. Thought also evolves. We are under no obligation to accept archaic definitions and barbaric ideas, and to the extent that we are capable of doing the work, we also have the freedom to create new definitions and new ideas.

(And for the record, MK, I do not worship my clarinet, chocolate bars, or the neighbour's cat as gods. If I did, though, this would have two benefits: The object of worship would be real, and it would be a vastly better "religion" than the one you're trying to foist upon us.)