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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 8, 2017 at 9:43 pm
I don't know what your scared of, or what you believed before, so I'll just tell you why I feel comforted by my inevitable death. Maybe it will help.
Someday, I will die. I will really die, I won't go to heaven or hell, I won't ever see my dead family members again, I won't ever again see the people I will leave behind.
It motivates me to make the most of the time I have. And, if I am to be remembered, I better make myself memorable. When I do, I'll have only myself to blame. I won't have to thank god for my accomplishments, because I did them myself. And my relationships, my friendships, my family...it's all so much more special because I only have right now to appreciate them. I only get one chance at my life, I am making it epic. I am enjoying it all I can.
And, to get to the main point, I feel comforted by the end. All my mistakes, all my thoughts, washed away. Everything I have will no longer matter. Suddenly, nothing will matter. I won't have to carry on forever. Existing can be pretty exhausting sometimes, I'm glad I do exist now, but I'm glad it's not something I will get to do forever. Everything I earn now will not matter anymore some day. This is all the more reason to live for myself.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 28, 2017 at 6:52 pm
(November 8, 2017 at 9:43 pm)Martian Mermaid Wrote: I don't know what your scared of, or what you believed before, so I'll just tell you why I feel comforted by my inevitable death. Maybe it will help.
Someday, I will die. I will really die, I won't go to heaven or hell, I won't ever see my dead family members again, I won't ever again see the people I will leave behind.
It motivates me to make the most of the time I have. And, if I am to be remembered, I better make myself memorable. When I do, I'll have only myself to blame. I won't have to thank god for my accomplishments, because I did them myself. And my relationships, my friendships, my family...it's all so much more special because I only have right now to appreciate them. I only get one chance at my life, I am making it epic. I am enjoying it all I can.
And, to get to the main point, I feel comforted by the end. All my mistakes, all my thoughts, washed away. Everything I have will no longer matter. Suddenly, nothing will matter. I won't have to carry on forever. Existing can be pretty exhausting sometimes, I'm glad I do exist now, but I'm glad it's not something I will get to do forever. Everything I earn now will not matter anymore some day. This is all the more reason to live for myself.
If he's afraid, it's probably because he's not 100% convinced of his atheism. In order to not fear death an atheist must be totally sure that there is no God. Otherwise there will always be the thought of the possibility of existence afterwards and if he has prepared himself for that possibility.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 28, 2017 at 7:03 pm
(November 28, 2017 at 6:52 pm)Lek Wrote: If he's afraid, it's probably because he's not 100% convinced of his atheism. In order to not fear death an atheist must be totally sure that there is no God. Otherwise there will always be the thought of the possibility of existence afterwards and if he has prepared himself for that possibility.
Well, look who's back!
Smelled a little blood in the water and got your second wind, eh?
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 28, 2017 at 7:12 pm
(November 28, 2017 at 7:03 pm)Thena323 Wrote: (November 28, 2017 at 6:52 pm)Lek Wrote: If he's afraid, it's probably because he's not 100% convinced of his atheism. In order to not fear death an atheist must be totally sure that there is no God. Otherwise there will always be the thought of the possibility of existence afterwards and if he has prepared himself for that possibility.
Well, look who's back!
Smelled a little blood in the water and got your second wind, eh?
To be honest, I missed it a little. Figured I'd take a look and see if I could stir the pot a bit.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 28, 2017 at 7:28 pm
(November 28, 2017 at 7:12 pm)Lek Wrote: To be honest, I missed it a little. Figured I'd take a look and see if I could stir the pot a bit.
Yeah, well your intended prey may not be such easy pickins.
He/she hasn't posted in awhile.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 28, 2017 at 7:36 pm
(November 28, 2017 at 6:52 pm)Lek Wrote: If he's afraid, it's probably because he's not 100% convinced of his atheism. In order to not fear death an atheist must be totally sure that there is no God. Otherwise there will always be the thought of the possibility of existence afterwards and if he has prepared himself for that possibility.
One can have doubt about many "existences afterwards"...
- Are you destined to Valhalla?
- Or will you be a giraffe, next time around?
- Or will you end up in a new person with no memories of your past life?
- Or will you end up in Elysium?
- Or Muslim heaven, with your 72 virgins?
- Or do you need to cross the river Styx and pay the boatman with a coin that should be placed in your mouth prior to burial?
- Or are you bound to the clouds, with wings on your back?
Are you sure it's not any of these?!
100% sure?
Are you prepared for the possibility that you got the wrong one?
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 28, 2017 at 7:42 pm
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2017 at 7:45 pm by Lek.)
(November 28, 2017 at 7:36 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (November 28, 2017 at 6:52 pm)Lek Wrote: If he's afraid, it's probably because he's not 100% convinced of his atheism. In order to not fear death an atheist must be totally sure that there is no God. Otherwise there will always be the thought of the possibility of existence afterwards and if he has prepared himself for that possibility.
One can have doubt about many "existences afterwards"...
- Are you destined to Valhalla?
- Or will you be a giraffe, next time around?
- Or will you end up in a new person with no memories of your past life?
- Or will you end up in Elysium?
- Or Muslim heaven, with your 72 virgins?
- Or do you need to cross the river Styx and pay the boatman with a coin that should be placed in your mouth prior to burial?
- Or are you bound to the clouds, with wings on your back?
Are you sure it's not any of these?!
100% sure?
Are you prepared for the possibility that you got the wrong one?
No. As long as I stay right with God those don't worry me. It doesn't change my opinion that unless you're totally sure that there is no God, you will be concerned about death.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 28, 2017 at 7:44 pm
(November 28, 2017 at 6:52 pm)Lek Wrote: (November 8, 2017 at 9:43 pm)Martian Mermaid Wrote: I don't know what your scared of, or what you believed before, so I'll just tell you why I feel comforted by my inevitable death. Maybe it will help.
Someday, I will die. I will really die, I won't go to heaven or hell, I won't ever see my dead family members again, I won't ever again see the people I will leave behind.
It motivates me to make the most of the time I have. And, if I am to be remembered, I better make myself memorable. When I do, I'll have only myself to blame. I won't have to thank god for my accomplishments, because I did them myself. And my relationships, my friendships, my family...it's all so much more special because I only have right now to appreciate them. I only get one chance at my life, I am making it epic. I am enjoying it all I can.
And, to get to the main point, I feel comforted by the end. All my mistakes, all my thoughts, washed away. Everything I have will no longer matter. Suddenly, nothing will matter. I won't have to carry on forever. Existing can be pretty exhausting sometimes, I'm glad I do exist now, but I'm glad it's not something I will get to do forever. Everything I earn now will not matter anymore some day. This is all the more reason to live for myself.
If he's afraid, it's probably because he's not 100% convinced of his atheism. In order to not fear death an atheist must be totally sure that there is no God. Otherwise there will always be the thought of the possibility of existence afterwards and if he has prepared himself for that possibility.
Is this another lead into the atheist vs agnostic argument? Agnostics are all cunts!
I have more respect for fudies than I do for agnostics.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 28, 2017 at 7:46 pm
Not sure why that OP thought he might love becoming an atheist. That would be like being disappointed that un-joining the Elvis fan club doesn't fill you with joy. Why should it make you happy? It isn't as though giving up being an Elvis fanboy automatically gives you a new affiliation. Heck, you might be nostalgic for those days of mindlessly worshipping the king. Maybe the guy wasn't cut out for non-subservience.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 28, 2017 at 7:48 pm
(November 28, 2017 at 6:52 pm)Lek Wrote: (November 8, 2017 at 9:43 pm)Martian Mermaid Wrote: I don't know what your scared of, or what you believed before, so I'll just tell you why I feel comforted by my inevitable death. Maybe it will help.
Someday, I will die. I will really die, I won't go to heaven or hell, I won't ever see my dead family members again, I won't ever again see the people I will leave behind.
It motivates me to make the most of the time I have. And, if I am to be remembered, I better make myself memorable. When I do, I'll have only myself to blame. I won't have to thank god for my accomplishments, because I did them myself. And my relationships, my friendships, my family...it's all so much more special because I only have right now to appreciate them. I only get one chance at my life, I am making it epic. I am enjoying it all I can.
And, to get to the main point, I feel comforted by the end. All my mistakes, all my thoughts, washed away. Everything I have will no longer matter. Suddenly, nothing will matter. I won't have to carry on forever. Existing can be pretty exhausting sometimes, I'm glad I do exist now, but I'm glad it's not something I will get to do forever. Everything I earn now will not matter anymore some day. This is all the more reason to live for myself.
If he's afraid, it's probably because he's not 100% convinced of his atheism. In order to not fear death an atheist must be totally sure that there is no God. Otherwise there will always be the thought of the possibility of existence afterwards and if he has prepared himself for that possibility.
I agree with this except for one quibble: It's not necessarily about his atheism specifically, it's more specifically about his belief in heaven and hell. Part of him must be unhappy because he wants there to be a heaven or afraid because he believes there's a hell.
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