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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 6, 2017 at 9:23 am
(November 6, 2017 at 9:03 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (November 6, 2017 at 6:58 am)Wololo Wrote: Quelle surprise I know more about your religion than you do. What's the rcc's first recourse when something goes wron? Pray fervently for whatever saint is nominated in the relevant area to intercede with god. When I was still catlick I could tell you the names of quite a fee of those saints.
Oh and to prove my point less than an hour after I posted originally RTÉ radio had a clip of the other pastor in the village saying (slight paraphrase) "we did what we could. We prayed".
Except that's not at all what Court Jesster said, and you fucking know it. What he said was "they should have prayed harder", as though we believe having prayed harder would have prevented this.
While we encourage prayer, nowhere in "catholic policy" does it say that people "should have prayed harder" when something bad happens to them. Nowehre does it say that praying hard enough guarantees that God will perform a miracle and take away a bad guy's free will to carry out whatever he was going to do, and if people are murdered, that just means they didn't pray hard enough. Nowhere does it say that, and neither is that even close to being a Catholic sentiment. And if you think otherwise, please, by all means, post where in the Catechism is says that. Show us some precious evidence.
What Jesster said was a disgusting, psychopathic thing to say in the face of christian families and children who just got murdered in a church, and you're equally disgusting for carrying it through and using it as an opportunity to attack my beliefs.
Heres a personal note to you, Tazzycon. It seems every time I say something, no matter how unrelated to my beliefs they are, you always make it a point to stick your ass in and make some kind of nasty comment to me about my faith. Even in the face of children getting murdered, you waste no time coming in here and using it to criticize a strawman of my beliefs at me, you piece of shit.
I don't know what kind of hard on you have for me and my beliefs that you make it a point to keep making comments to me about my faith every chance you get, but I'm really sick of your stupid bullshit. Serisouly dude, go fuck yourself and get a life.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 6, 2017 at 9:25 am
(This post was last modified: November 6, 2017 at 9:34 am by Neo-Scholastic.)
Just read that the shooter was an atheist and was motivated by his hatred of religion and religiou people. Apparently we was well know for using the same kind of rhetoric we find on AF.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 6, 2017 at 9:25 am
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(November 6, 2017 at 9:22 am)Brian37 Wrote: It is obvious, and none of your dodges are going to work. WE MAKE TOO MANY AND THEY ARE TOO EASY TO GET.
It is that simple.
-and this is why we don't have effective gun control. The people who want it most are too busy chasing dragons. You can -quantify- the problem for them and they lose their shit, and resist suggestions to take direct and specific action against that. No, no, let's go after the big bad factories.
If we want to reduce gun crime, and gun death..yes, we need to enforce POS (and possession)..and along with that we need to create a buyback program that takes the ubiquitous weapons used in crime off the streets. We know what they are, we know their caliber, their make, and even the year of their manufacture. We have a really good idea which states and cities they're largely condensed in (and what states they flow from and to). We even know the people who own them..the people who facilitate the P2P transfers. We can tailor every part of this to a T.
It's not that it would be impossible..or even very hard to do, or that it couldn;t survive a constitutional challenge, or even that we need new laws. You know what the problem is? It;s boring. It's tedious ass gruntwork that doesn;t lend itself well to being attached to bigger, politically valuable issues. The Hur Dur Death Merchant Corporations clique can't get behind it, and it's hard to scream "My cold dead hands" when somebody wants to buy your dusty ass pistol that you haven't fired in three years.
Plans like this are routinely proposed...they just don't get the support they need, from either side of the aisle. When they do, they're inarguably successful. The federal assualt rifle ban didn't do a damned thing...but the mandatory waiting period for pistols was a hit.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 6, 2017 at 9:28 am
(November 6, 2017 at 9:25 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Just read that the shooter was an atheist and was motivated by his hatred of religion and religiou people.
I thought he taught Sunday achool??
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 6, 2017 at 9:34 am
(November 6, 2017 at 9:28 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (November 6, 2017 at 9:25 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Just read that the shooter was an atheist and was motivated by his hatred of religion and religiou people.
I thought he taught Sunday achool??
I'd take a class on Sunday alcohol.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 6, 2017 at 9:34 am
(November 6, 2017 at 9:25 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Just read that the shooter was an atheist and was motivated by his hatred of religion and religiou people.
Source?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 6, 2017 at 9:34 am
(November 6, 2017 at 9:25 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Just read that the shooter was an atheist and was motivated by his hatred of religion and religiou people.
My SoBap relatives are praying that is true.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 6, 2017 at 9:35 am
(November 6, 2017 at 9:34 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I'd take a class on Sunday alcohol.
Ay-men! Preach it, brother!
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 6, 2017 at 9:36 am
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(November 6, 2017 at 9:34 am)Cyberman Wrote: (November 6, 2017 at 9:25 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Just read that the shooter was an atheist and was motivated by his hatred of religion and religiou people.
Source?
Not sure how reliable this is, but i did a google search and found this: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4851812/te...k-atheism/
Hopefully we will soon know what his motive was. I feel like it helps bring closure, unlike the Vegas shooting.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 6, 2017 at 9:36 am
(November 6, 2017 at 9:34 am)Cyberman Wrote: (November 6, 2017 at 9:25 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Just read that the shooter was an atheist and was motivated by his hatred of religion and religiou people.
Source?
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