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Eternal afterlife
#71
RE: Eternal afterlife
(January 9, 2018 at 9:21 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(January 7, 2018 at 5:53 am)Mr.Obvious Wrote: Is THE moral ruler of The universe also iTS creator, all powerful and all knowing?

Immense power, would be all powerful if not limited by his (God's) nature, and that's a good thing. , The idea of human uniqueness is grounded in the biblical truth that people are made in the image of God (Imago Dei),; this is the reason people feel a moral pull to do what is right and good.

Garbage in, garbage out.
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#72
RE: Eternal afterlife
(January 9, 2018 at 9:21 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(January 7, 2018 at 5:53 am)Mr.Obvious Wrote: Is THE moral ruler of The universe also iTS creator, all powerful and all knowing?

Immense power, would be all powerful if not limited by his (God's) nature, and that's a good thing. , The idea of human uniqueness is grounded in the biblical truth that people are made in the image of God (Imago Dei),; this is the reason people feel a moral pull to do what is right and good.

Okay. The point i wanted to discuss is renderend moot as you claim he's not unlimited.
Still unconvinced by what you are saying though.
"If we go down, we go down together!"
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#73
RE: Eternal afterlife
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#74
RE: Eternal hell and heaven
(November 21, 2017 at 3:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Maybe because they read it in some stupid old book?


Quote:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Matty  25

If a court declares multiple life sentences for one person, does that mean that they will live as long as all the sentences put together?

Of course not.

The wages of sin is death, not everlasting life, but an everlasting punishment, an everlasting death.
It has to be said, because the saints could be dead for thousands of years, yet they will be resurrected, they will come to life.

I don't know what stupid book you've been reading.
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#75
RE: Eternal afterlife
*any day now

Tell you what, get back to us when zombies roam the streets like magic book says they did in jerusalem on the day they killed themselves a demi-god.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#76
RE: Eternal afterlife
(January 19, 2018 at 2:19 am)Khemikal Wrote: *any day now

Tell you what, get back to us when zombies roam the streets like magic book says they did in jerusalem on the day they killed themselves a demi-god.

There are people that don't realize that God is not slow about his promise, as some count slowness, since it gives an opportunity to carefully consider God's Works-of-Redemption. Today is the day of salvation, not good to tarry since believers (time to get their life straighten out before the Lord) and non-believers are both subject to sudden departure.
Atheist Credo: An universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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#77
RE: Eternal afterlife
Back and forth we go -

"You have to believe in god." "God didn't say that, he said this." "Hell isn't that, it's this." "You have to be forgiven." "You have to repent." "You can't know god until you..."

jesus-tap-dancing-christ-on-a-saltine-cracker, not a single one of you knows for sure what happens when you die, but somehow your particular interpretation of ancient scribblings from primitive minds has somehow made you the self-proclaimed authority on "the true" afterlife.


Let me tell you something about your afterlife ---

It doesn't matter how amazing Heaven is. It wouldn't matter if Hell is a great party. If you could choose any paradise you wanted for all of time, or even explore the cosmos for all eternity it would NOT matter one damn bit.

Why?
Because 1 year - or 900 trillion years into your perfect existence, you would eventually feel an overwhelming emptiness that could never be broken.
What makes any life beautiful and worth living is the chase to discover more before the end.




Only a fool would want to live forever. Make the most of what you have today.




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#78
RE: Eternal afterlife
(January 22, 2018 at 9:15 pm)Cinjin Wrote: ...
Let me tell you something about your afterlife ---

...1 year - or 900 trillion years into your perfect existence, you would eventually feel an overwhelming emptiness that could never be broken.
What makes any life beautiful and worth living is the chase to discover more before the end.

Only a fool would want to live forever. Make the most of what you have today.

Cinjin

Well said and true.
In the current condition and mentality, a long life would begin to be pure torture.
That's why we have to be mentally prepared and physically changed.

Here is what the physical change is - the new body is made up of the old body or the one we have now, combined and transformed into the new.
The old body is renewed to perfection, with the addition of incredible power and performance.

The mental preparation is mostly completed here. The mind is to be transformed after the likeness of the mind of Christ. This is done for us through cooperation and example.

The conditions for entering eternal life are to be in harmony with the ten laws of God, when summarized are respect for God, and others as we respect ourselves.
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#79
RE: Eternal afterlife
Meh, pass.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#80
RE: Eternal afterlife
(January 26, 2018 at 5:55 pm)Banned Wrote: Well said and true.
In the current condition and mentality, a long life would begin to be pure torture.
That's why we have to be mentally prepared and physically changed.

Here is what the physical change is - the new body is made up of the old body or the one we have now, combined and transformed into the new.
The old body is renewed to perfection, with the addition of incredible power and performance.

The mental preparation is mostly completed here. The mind is to be transformed after the likeness of the mind of Christ. This is done for us through cooperation and example.

The conditions for entering eternal life are to be in harmony with the ten laws of God, when summarized are respect for God, and others as we respect ourselves.

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It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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