How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?

[The Grand Nudger]

Sure, plenty of people.  Even some of the relative strangers on this board, but...ah...it seems like we're drifting?  Was there something you wanted to know, or?

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I am not capable of knowing you, I could identify with a few things, but to fully get you? No, there would not be enough time to comprehend you, your thoughts and experiences... and you can't even recall half of your life. Millions of details are missing.

More than half and more than millions, I'm sure.  You could probably get to know me though, plenty of people have..as I already mentioned.  Hell, you're getting to know me right know.  

I still believe that you exist, and I believe in your whole human nature.

I don't think this is going to end how you expect it to........

[Chad32]

That's not our fault. We have a book that's supposed to be our window into what he's like, and most of it involves killing. And apparently when he comes back, he's going to do it again.

So killing is no good?

Killing off sections of the population, or killing nearly everything on the planet, is not a solution to the problem Humans face. It is a symptom of problems like tribalism, resource inequality, and subjugation of weaker groups by more powerful groups. Likely among others. A god should be powerful and intelligent enough to not have to resort to it. As far as I can tell, Yahweh doesn't do much to really fix societal problems. He might pass down some laws to mitigate problems, but it took us working together, sometimes against religious groups, to bring freedom and equality to the world.

I've heard talk about how he was patient with some groups, but when his patience ran out, he decided to have them killed. But that just begs the question, what did he do while he was being patient? The bible rarely if ever really goes into detail about these things. It focuses more on "just do what he says, and you won't die". Similar to how my father says "do what I tell you, and I won't beat you". Getting beaten as a child didn't help me become a better man. Killing people by itsself doesn't help society become better.

[Banned]

Are we about to be treated to another round of apologism for the horrid acts of your alleged "god" that you simultaneously insist don't exist and/or were righteous?  I mean this in the friendliest way, but I don't think you've got the pulse of the conversation or your audience.

What audience?

[The Grand Nudger]

One does wonder how he whittles away the centuries between attempted genocides.  To hear it told, he's finding lost wallets and appearing on toast and whatnot...which sounds like a strange hobby.....and a fantastic misuse of his limitless time and ability.

[Banned]

So killing is no good?

Killing off sections of the population, or killing nearly everything on the planet, is not a solution to the problem Humans face. It is a symptom of problems like tribalism, resource inequality, and subjugation of weaker groups by more powerful groups. Likely among others. A god should be powerful and intelligent enough to not have to resort to it. As far as I can tell, Yahweh doesn't do much to really fix societal problems. He might pass down some laws to mitigate problems, but it took us working together, sometimes against religious groups, to bring freedom and equality to the world.

I've heard talk about how he was patient with some groups, but when his patience ran out, he decided to have them killed. But that just begs the question, what did he do while he was being patient? The bible rarely if ever really goes into detail about these things. It focuses more on "just do what he says, and you won't die". Similar to how my father says "do what I tell you, and I won't beat you". Getting beaten as a child didn't help me become a better man. Killing people by itsself doesn't help society become better.

Who would want to treat an innocent kid like that? 
I really don't blame you for your hatred against obvious cruelty, for death, for genocide, for the God who is supposed to be in control of all that. 
And I never want to diminish your proper sense of justice.

I came from a background that has never been told, because it had different areas of complex suffering, as well as obvious brutality. In what was supposed to be a Christian home, but which was the opposite in many ways. If anyone should have serious misgivings about God it is I.
I don't know God, but I experience love in big enough doses that help me.

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One does wonder how he whittles away the centuries between attempted genocides.  To hear it told, he's finding lost wallets and appearing on toast and whatnot...which sounds like a strange hobby.....and a fantastic misuse of his limitless time and ability.

I know what you are referring to about the toast, lol   ! (God is not the one behind the delusions and Satanic activities).

I asked exactly the same questions - what happens between the interventions.

No one is more proactive than God, and the actions are not trumpeted, not known, and not appreciated - of course, how could they be if not known.

I could rave on about a few things going on, but it's just too much for me to handle, I don't know where to start...

[The Grand Nudger]

I know what you are referring to about the toast, lol   !

See, shining moments of agreement.

I asked exactly the same questions - what happens between the interventions.

Did you...and what did he say?

No one is more proactive than God, and the actions are not trumpeted, not known, and not appreciated - of course, how could they be if not known.

Invisible work?  I wish somebody would pay me for invisible work..but, stingy bastards, they keep telling me that I have to show it before I can be credited for it.......

I could rave on about a few things going on, but it's just too much for me to handle, I don't know where to start...

Clearly, but how could you........it is invisible, after all...or isn't it?

[Chad32]

Killing off sections of the population, or killing nearly everything on the planet, is not a solution to the problem Humans face. It is a symptom of problems like tribalism, resource inequality, and subjugation of weaker groups by more powerful groups. Likely among others. A god should be powerful and intelligent enough to not have to resort to it. As far as I can tell, Yahweh doesn't do much to really fix societal problems. He might pass down some laws to mitigate problems, but it took us working together, sometimes against religious groups, to bring freedom and equality to the world.

I've heard talk about how he was patient with some groups, but when his patience ran out, he decided to have them killed. But that just begs the question, what did he do while he was being patient? The bible rarely if ever really goes into detail about these things. It focuses more on "just do what he says, and you won't die". Similar to how my father says "do what I tell you, and I won't beat you". Getting beaten as a child didn't help me become a better man. Killing people by itsself doesn't help society become better.

Who would want to treat an innocent kid like that? 
I really don't blame you for your hatred against obvious cruelty, for death, for genocide, for the God who is supposed to be in control of all that. 
And I never want to diminish your proper sense of justice.

I came from a background that has never been told, because it had different areas of complex suffering, as well as obvious brutality. In what was supposed to be a Christian home, but which was the opposite in many ways. If anyone should have serious misgivings about God it is I.
I don't know God, but I experience love in big enough doses that help me.

Yet unlike me, you've decided to give this god some credit for the love you've been given, despite admitting you don't know him. I just cut out the middle man, and thank the people who show me love, without inviting superstition into it.

[Banned]

Clearly, but how could you........it is invisible, after all...or isn't it?

That's right. I am clueless as well as informed, and the latter is totally insignificant.

[The Grand Nudger]

You just seem confused, is all.

[Banned]

You just seem confused, is all.

Speechless too.