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RE: Best books debunking Christianity
November 27, 2017 at 11:52 am
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I'm thinking in regards to all those 'inconvenient' Bible verses that current era Christians try VERY hard to ignore that many, to varying degrees, might be seen as having some inherent 'debunking' power.
For instance, Scriptures clearly describing Jesus as being crucified on Maundy Thursday and again on Good Friday are studiously ignored in regards to their inherent duplicative Gospel Truth. Most folks are happy with the Good Friday crucifixion and there is no desire to upset the apple cart, as it were, by discussing the Friday event was a re-do or sequel to the execution that happened on Thursday.
Lest the pew warmers start asking awkward questions . . . .
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RE: Best books debunking Christianity
November 27, 2017 at 2:02 pm
I, on the other hand, question the necessity of absolutes. I also consider nihilism a starting point rather than an end point *shrug*
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RE: Best books debunking Christianity
November 27, 2017 at 2:21 pm
(November 27, 2017 at 2:02 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I, on the other hand, question the necessity of absolutes. I also consider nihilism a starting point rather than an end point *shrug*
Then you are more intellectually honest and/or thoughtful than many.
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RE: Best books debunking Christianity
November 27, 2017 at 3:08 pm
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Yeah if Christianity was debunked I would believe in astrology, aliens, spiritism and fairies like Dan Aykroyd because saying there is nothing there is dishonest and frankly I'm to weak to confront reality.
BTW not a book but still a classic read - Letter to a Christian Nation by Sam Harris. It's even available on youtube.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Best books debunking Christianity
November 27, 2017 at 5:25 pm
(November 27, 2017 at 2:21 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (November 27, 2017 at 2:02 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I, on the other hand, question the necessity of absolutes. I also consider nihilism a starting point rather than an end point *shrug*
Then you are more intellectually honest and/or thoughtful than many.
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RE: Best books debunking Christianity
November 27, 2017 at 6:37 pm
(November 27, 2017 at 5:25 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: (November 27, 2017 at 2:21 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Then you are more intellectually honest and/or thoughtful than many.
...I honestly never thought that I would ever get a compliment (albeit, perhaps damning with faint praise ) from you. I'm not sure how to handle it
Well, I'm about 3 in on a Bombay sapphire Martini...in vino veritas!
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RE: Best books debunking Christianity
November 27, 2017 at 8:27 pm
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(November 27, 2017 at 10:39 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Personally, IMO, from a purely intellectual point of view, nihilism is the ultimate conclusion of any philosophy without some grounding in the Divine. I cannot say that definitively, since I cannot exclude the possibility that some historic or current atheistic philosophy of which I am unaware avoids it.
Doesn't Plato's Euthyphro argument avoid it? Plato actually seems to argue the reverse: that assuming values just because "God says so" represents a nihilism of sorts.
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RE: Best books debunking Christianity
November 27, 2017 at 8:32 pm
That's just one of Neo's favorite things to say, who knows why he says it, I doubt Neo knows why he says it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Best books debunking Christianity
November 27, 2017 at 9:21 pm
Chad can't function without thinking he is being watched all the time. He is Winston Smith-ish.... without the rebelliousness!
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RE: Best books debunking Christianity
November 27, 2017 at 11:05 pm
2KI 6:29
"So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we may eat him,' but she had hidden him."
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