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List of reasons to believe God exists?
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 (December 4, 2017 at 9:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: @WallymI think you believe there is a universal experience. That we're all feeling the same thing, and ultimately looking at the world through generally the same lens. And I think you're a bit behind the times on that front. Who a person is is not some abstract spiritual idea. It is their physical makeup in each moment and permanently subject to change. The brain in particular determines our actions. And our brains can develop 'abnormally', or be affected by diet, exercise, sleep, sun, "lady times", stress, narcotics, alcohol, prescription drugs, and on and on and on and on. The side effects of some pills are gambling addiction. How wild and frightening is that? That our grasp on who we are is so tenuous? 
Even if we could say we all experience x . All that proves is we are all alike and think alike . Not that there is some magic values floating in an either .Or that it is apart from mere physical space. No matter how much theists insist on the matter.
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December 4, 2017 at 10:31 pm
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Anybody notice that only one theist gave a list? Thanks CL.
Didn't need the "here's my philosophy" or that "there can be all kinds of reasons".
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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December 4, 2017 at 11:44 pm
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(December 4, 2017 at 10:31 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Anybody notice that only one theist gave a list? Thanks CL. I didn't need a literal list. I'm pretty familiar with Mystic's arguments, so he certainly didn't need to list them for me. I'm familiar enough with them, and knew they were implied by his post. Steve I think just replied to the title of the thread. Atlas went with the complexity argument. CL answered in detail. Neo said 'you first'. I don't know if he'll respond again, but I had no problem with going first. But outside of Steve, I've got no complaints about the responses. And it's not like I'm complaining about Steve. I know he's been going back and forth for a while in a couple other threads.  RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
December 5, 2017 at 7:10 am
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December 5, 2017 at 7:31 am
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Another proof I have not presented is the existence proof.
That is existence is the default state. Non-existence is impossible. I would take it further and say any non-existence is impossible. This proves existence is maximal existence and absolute existence. To say why any non-existence is impossible - is the same reason why non-existence by definition is impossible. I hope this satisfies your queries, and what is after the truth but error? And there are many more arguments for God I have not ever presented, but I believe God is best at presenting them, so would suggest to you Wallym, to give Quran a serious read. (December 4, 2017 at 9:37 pm)wallym Wrote:(December 4, 2017 at 9:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: @WallymI think you believe there is a universal experience. That we're all feeling the same thing, and ultimately looking at the world through generally the same lens. You are mistaken, I believe the light comes in different forms according to our relative state, but that it stills manifests an absolute light.
So, relatively absolute, then?
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 Leader of the gang of jerkoffs(tm)  Religious Views: L'Uomo verrà portato dalla sua creazione (December 4, 2017 at 6:02 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Here I am talking about atheism as an intellectual commitment with respect to the proposition "God exists," not some trivial ignorance. I guess I would turn the question around. How in the world could anyone find atheism a coherent and satisfying intellectual stance? You can actually use your intellect towards less fantastic endeavours. |
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