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Why are most religions agains homosexuality?
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RE: Why are most religions agains homosexuality?
(December 10, 2017 at 8:01 am)Die Atheistin Wrote: Just why? Homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone. Is it because religions want more followers and homos don't usually reproduce? Then why aren't Catholic priests llowed to marry? Are they supposed to have a relationship only with God? Also, Christianity preaches that you should be ashamed of sex. If they wanted people to reproduce why would they make them fear reproduction?
Is it because homosexuals are a minority, and humans naturally despise who isn't following the herd? Does religion preach against homosexuality so that it could attract the majority?

Homosexual actions. Because we believe sex is meant as a self giving act between one man and one woman who are married. Having sex outside of this context is contrary to our beliefs on sexual morality.

I'm not sure what you are talking about when you say Christianity teaches us to be ashamed of sex lol. I'm certainly not. I think people (in and out of the church) confuse the notion of keeping sex sacred with being ashamed of it.
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#22
RE: Why are most religions agains homosexuality?
Why do you impose your belief on those who are not you?
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#23
RE: Why are most religions agains homosexuality?
(December 10, 2017 at 2:18 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Why do you impose your belief on those who are not you?

Im not sure what you mean. The OP asked why we believe homosexual actions are not moral. I was answering her question.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#24
RE: Why are most religions agains homosexuality?
Well, if a religion says it's okay to follow some other god, but if you follow ours, then our God frowns on homosexual acts, then the question stops at "why do you think homosexual acts are immoral such that you would project that onto yu our God?".

But If a religion says "our God frowns on homosexual acts and it is wrong to follow any other god", then the question inescapable mutated into "why do you seek to impose upon others that which you would project into your god?".
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#25
RE: Why are most religions agains homosexuality?
Most religious people are against homosexuality because their stupid fucking BACKWARDS holy books is anti-homosexuality.
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RE: Why are most religions agains homosexuality?
(December 10, 2017 at 9:56 am)purplepurpose Wrote:
(December 10, 2017 at 9:47 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Why no kids? You can explain that?

Google can give you all opinions.

And no doubt your intention won't be mentioned.
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RE: Why are most religions agains homosexuality?
(December 10, 2017 at 8:01 am)Die Atheistin Wrote: Just why? Homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone. Is it because religions want more followers and homos don't usually reproduce? Then why aren't Catholic priests llowed to marry? Are they supposed to have a relationship only with God? Also, Christianity preaches that you should be ashamed of sex. If they wanted people to reproduce why would they make them fear reproduction?
Is it because homosexuals are a minority, and humans naturally despise who isn't following the herd? Does religion preach against homosexuality so that it could attract the majority?

As a transgender female growing up in a fundamentalist, evangelical Christian church, I was subjected to mental anguish and child abuse.  Before publicly renouncing my Christian faith and embracing atheism early in high school, I suffered night terrors about dying and going to eternal Hell; it was, at the experts teach, running around screaming with my eyes wide open, yet not remembering anything the next morning.

Religious faith is just sick, because of what it does to human beings.
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#28
RE: Why are most religions agains homosexuality?
Religion was invented so men with little dicks could control women.  Gays refuse to play that game.
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RE: Why are most religions agains homosexuality?
First religion question, the most important thing in religion is defining what we are, to know ourselves truly.

When we don't know who we are meant to be, we become confused on the path,  and everyone can say an opinion of something, what is important is proofs and insights, to inform by what of either a sure information from God sent by or sure knowledge.

Everyone can make everything evil as ambiguous.

For example, you say it doesn't harm anyone.  But we see US nuke two cities and declare to the whole world it was a good deed they did. Till now they teach this. Nuking two cities is not evil, threatening a whole country to be nuked is not evil, blackmailing them because you have this technology is not evil, etc.

From this it is learned the most severe evil deeds can be justified by people when they aren't thinking for themselves with clarity but just parrot none sense from people who misguide them.

That said, there is plenty of harm of homosexuality tolerance.

1. If it is a choice whether we accept such orientation or not, and people present it as not a choice, a person or a kid orienting towards that will utterly be confused and think he is gay, when according to religion, such thought are from dark beings and dark enemies of humanity.  

That harm in this case is a person will not resist and follow what is meant for him or her to be.

2.  If it is a choice, it harms not only a child presented with evil thoughts from the dark enemies, but harms the parents, who if against it, will seem like they are abusing their child. The child might pick society over the advice of his parents, and it can cause division between a family.

3.  It confuses people what free-will is and what sin is, for the greater sin has never been an action but existing in the darkness whence we are meant to fade the darkness into the light of God.  And people want to be accepted for who they are, but being self-worshipers as we are, we will justify all our preferences and whence we feel we can get away with responsibility we will.

4. Fighting for the soul is something humans must do,  if this is part of the fight, then we must prepare people to orient themselves to condemn evil. When people are not allowed to condemn evil because they are bullied by people who hate being called out for their evil, there is confusion to right and wrong.

5. No gay person ever used revelation to justify their action, that is no one uses religion, that is no one believes if there is a God, that this great benevolent reached out and clarified there is no evil in this. Hence, this evil, is used to do away with God's advice to humans and his benevolent warnings.

6. If it is a choice, then surely you see orienting towards the opposite sex is more praiseworthy.

7. The lie that we can't choose will make people loose their guards and change on the fly without guarding against it and thinking they "discovered" who they really are.  And flip it, if a person is cursed with such a curse, he or she might think there is no cure to it which lies in a firm strong resolve in themselves and condemnation and commanding to good from others. 

8. These are harms. And other harms that come about is that borders are going to broken. If a society becomes bisexual by choice for example, there can be a lot of barriers broken and distrust will happen. 

9. And in all this confusion will occur - to what it means to be a male or a female, because we are defined with respect to each other.   That we might as well do away with genders!
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RE: Why are most religions agains homosexuality?
(December 10, 2017 at 2:12 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(December 10, 2017 at 8:01 am)Die Atheistin Wrote: Just why? Homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone. Is it because religions want more followers and homos don't usually reproduce? Then why aren't Catholic priests llowed to marry? Are they supposed to have a relationship only with God? Also, Christianity preaches that you should be ashamed of sex. If they wanted people to reproduce why would they make them fear reproduction?
Is it because homosexuals are a minority, and humans naturally despise who isn't following the herd? Does religion preach against homosexuality so that it could attract the majority?

Homosexual actions. Because we believe sex is meant as a self giving act between one man and one woman who are married. Having sex outside of this context is contrary to our beliefs on sexual morality.

I'm not sure what you are talking about when you say Christianity teaches us to be ashamed of sex lol. I'm certainly not. I think people (in and out of the church) confuse the notion of keeping sex sacred with being ashamed of it.

There are no sexual acts that are exclusive to homosexuality, though. A straight married couple can do whatever any two guys would want to do with each other. So it can't be the actions that bother most theists. It has to be something else.
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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