I'm sick and tired of Christianity

[notimportant1234]

Sure , because we all show gratitude and respect to our parents when we are teenagers.

[John V]

The fact that many teenagers are ungrateful and self-centered doesn't excuse it or mean it should be encouraged.

[Brian37]

The fact that many teenagers are ungrateful and self-centered doesn't excuse it or mean it should be encouraged.

NO, just because your parents believe one thing, does not mean you as a kid are obligated to blindly swallow that religion. Kids are not clay that you mold and bake in an oven. You teach kids HOW to think, not what to think.

Die has every damned RIGHT to have their own thoughts. Now, I do not see any posts in this thread telling die to disrupt the house, or drop out of school, NOBODY is saying that. Die SHOULD stay out of trouble, but that DOES NOT mean Die should live in a mental prison and never talk to anyone. 

This is the same CRAP LGBT had to go through for far too long. It is easier for adults to say what they want, but when you have no choice but to live under a roof knowing you cant legally leave, and those under that roof, could condemn you for not buying the same thing, EVEN kick you out on the street. That is EVEN the same fear X-Muslims have knowing they still have to pretend they believe even though they dont. 

We are not going to let you bully or blackmail Die in this thread.

Die should stay in school, get the best grades they can, save their money, and when they get out on their own, then they don't have to worry about what their parents may or may not do. BUT as long as they have to live under a roof like that, they need someone to vent to, WE WILL provide that to them.

[notimportant1234]

The fact that many teenagers are ungrateful and self-centered doesn't excuse it or mean it should be encouraged.

It is not about beeing gratefull , it is about you not lething him to sort out his problems. If he has a comfortable life doesn't give you the right to dismiss his problems just because you think that you know better. With your kind of logic we should all ignore our day to day problems just because people die of cancer.

[John V]

It is not about beeing gratefull ,

Why not?

it is about you not lething him to sort out his problems. If he has a comfortable life doesn't give you the right to dismiss his problems just because you think that you know better.

Part of sorting out your problems should be putting them into perspective, and trying to understand other people who you perceive as causing problems.

With your kind of logic we should all ignore our day to day problems just because people die of cancer.

Ignore - no, but keeping in mind the relative severity of one's problems, and being grateful for the good in one's life, is a good idea.

[notimportant1234]

Nope . The only problems that are real for you , are your problems.
You know what will a suicidal person do if you tell him about how good his life is and how gratefull he should be and how his problem is not that severe ? He will comit suicide.

[Brian37]

Let me also add Alpha, this DOES NOT even have to be about being an atheist or being LGBT or any issue like that.

You can mentally abuse a kid by having an "all or nothing" dictatorial parenting attitude. Ruling out of fear is not good. Kids can and often end up internalizing that and end up NOT saying anything to the parent and will get into destructive behaviors and even thoughts of suicide because they feel they have nobody to talk to.

I can tell you that, because while my late mother loved me, growing up she had a very authoritarian view, and it also did not help that I had NO friends on my street growing up, I didn't have my first real friend till high school, AND THAT was back when I did believe. I lived in a prison. My only choices were, to risk being outside and getting bullied and beat up, or stay in my room. I did some very destructive things as a teen as a result of that. 

And again, the same mental abuse goes on with kids of Muslim parents, they end up hiding the fact they don't believe anymore, and if they say that in those societies, the backlash in some parts of the world IS DEATH. But even with Americans, even here, living in fear, can cause emotional damage, thoughts of suicide, even outside the issue of religion.

I was lucky that I was able to mature later in life. I was also lucky that the older my mother got, the more she saw me as an individual. BUT not all families are like that. 

If you cannot allow your own child to speak freely, AND I DON'T MEAN be verbally abusive. I merely mean be honest with you, then you are ABUSING that child and they will shut you out far more quickly.

Die needs a place to vent, NOBODY is or should suggest die be disruptive or destructive in the house itself. But letting them know they are not alone, and they do have friends that wont judge them, THAT HELPS THEM COPE, that helps them be less stressed and that knowing you are not alone, will get them to adulthood so that they can make their own mature and responsible decisions.

LOVE your child, listen to your child DONT dictate to them.

[John V]

Let me also add Alpha, this DOES NOT even have to be about being an atheist or being LGBT or any issue like that.

You can mentally abuse a kid by having an "all or nothing" dictatorial parenting attitude.

He doesn't portray his parents like that. He says they're moderates regarding religion.

Further, he's at least 17 years old. I don't know what the law is where he is but where I am you can walk out and support yourself if you want. If that's the case and he's bitching while taking their support, that's especially ungrateful.

[Brian37]

Let me also add Alpha, this DOES NOT even have to be about being an atheist or being LGBT or any issue like that.

You can mentally abuse a kid by having an "all or nothing" dictatorial parenting attitude.  

He doesn't portray his parents like that. He says they're moderates regarding religion.

Further, he's at least 17 years old. I don't know what the law is where he is but where I am you can walk out and support yourself if you want. If that's the case and he's bitching while taking their support, that's especially ungrateful.

I could care less some teens, even 18 and 19 year olds do not have the financial means to live on their own. Life is not a script and not every family has the same finances.

I bitched about my mom, even in her old age. That did not mean I didn't love her. I knew I drove her nuts sometimes too. I am quite sure she complained to her friends out of ear shot too.

Family is no different even with co workers you may love. You have a slam busy day, something along the lines goes out of whack, you argue over who did what, end of the day you clean up, you go home, you don't hold grudges, you start the next day again, as a team.

Love isn't always about agreeing, or never getting upset. BUT what you do and how you communicate in the long term.

You have NO right to judge Die since you do not live in that house under those conditions.

[Der/die AtheistIn]

Everytime someone tells  me how great Christianity is or how I should practise it I wanna scream: "SHUT THE FUCK UP! 

Every time I hear you talk about your relatively good family life, but instead of being thankful for that you whine because they're Christians, I wanna scream STFU. Go figure.

It's in human nature not wanting to get positive things of our chests. I'm grateful for the positive parts, I never said that there aren't any, I just want to get rid of frustration. And I am forced to hear things about christianity, you're not forced to read my posts, you choosed to do so.

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The fact that many teenagers are ungrateful and self-centered doesn't excuse it or mean it should be encouraged.

NO, just because your parents believe one thing, does not mean you as a kid are obligated to blindly swallow that religion. Kids are not clay that you mold and bake in an oven. You teach kids HOW to think, not what to think.

Die has every damned RIGHT to have their own thoughts. Now, I do not see any posts in this thread telling die to disrupt the house, or drop out of school, NOBODY is saying that. Die SHOULD stay out of trouble, but that DOES NOT mean Die should live in a mental prison and never talk to anyone. 

This is the same CRAP LGBT had to go through for far too long. It is easier for adults to say what they want, but when you have no choice but to live under a roof knowing you cant legally leave, and those under that roof, could condemn you for not buying the same thing, EVEN kick you out on the street. That is EVEN the same fear X-Muslims have knowing they still have to pretend they believe even though they dont. 

We are not going to let you bully or blackmail Die in this thread.

Die should stay in school, get the best grades they can, save their money, and when they get out on their own, then they don't have to worry about what their parents may or may not do. BUT as long as they have to live under a roof like that, they need someone to vent to, WE WILL provide that to them.

Thank you very much for your support. Though I don't know if Alpha Male is really bullying me, maybe they just disagree and say their opinion out loud.