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Kingdom Hearts and Atheism
#31
RE: Kingdom Hearts and Atheism
(January 8, 2018 at 2:13 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: It's interesting, at least. Has anyone else read this Kingdom Hearts stuff?

It's a video game. I haven't played it, but I agree. It does sound interesting.
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#32
RE: Kingdom Hearts and Atheism
(January 8, 2018 at 12:09 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:
(January 6, 2018 at 11:41 pm)Mikeykitty123 Wrote: Hello everyone, this is Mikey. I am going to talk about Kingdom Hearts and how it corresponds with Atheism.
In Kingdom Hearts, there are creatures known as "Nobodies".
Human beings who have no hearts, or soul. Nobodies are believed to be just certain "accidents" and are nothing but empty husks with no emotion.
If a Nobody gets killed, their body returns to the person they were.

What's that have to do with atheism? Well everything.
Nobodies claim themselves "are not supposed to exist, yet we still do." Nobodies also lack a "heart", or a "soul" as they were treated as in the KH series.

It is kinda similar towards how some atheists believed that life was created by chance and/or there is no such thing as souls or the afterlife.

In KH Dream Drop Distance for 3ds, it is explained that Nobodies DO have hearts. Nobodies have simply evolved and learn to live just like the people who have hearts.
In other words, the hearts grew inside the Nobodies and the Nobodies become their own people.

It is very similar towards atheism, and the scientific theory of evolution. The idea of growing, evolving, into something more than they were. 
And the part with how a Nobody returns to their original human form after they die is very similar towards the idea of "reincarnation" where if we die, we would be re-born again.

I hope you guys like my comparision. It is a lot less negative compared to my last post. Leave a comment on what you think. And you all have a great day!

There are no souls.  There is no afterlife.  I sometimes wish that Reincarnation would exist - multiple chances to learn - but it's as illogical as any other concept of the afterlife.
You really need to study evolution until you have some basic understanding of it.  Atheists simply do not believe that any sort of deity exists.  That's all.
Go explain your "nobodies" fantasy to school chums at recess.  Let us know how that goes, k?
That is sad. You clearly have absolutely no creativity and have absolute belief in nothing. You are a heartless bastard you know that?
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#33
RE: Kingdom Hearts and Atheism
(January 9, 2018 at 1:08 pm)Mikeykitty123 Wrote:
(January 8, 2018 at 12:09 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: There are no souls.  There is no afterlife.  I sometimes wish that Reincarnation would exist - multiple chances to learn - but it's as illogical as any other concept of the afterlife.
You really need to study evolution until you have some basic understanding of it.  Atheists simply do not believe that any sort of deity exists.  That's all.
Go explain your "nobodies" fantasy to school chums at recess.  Let us know how that goes, k?
That is sad. You clearly have absolutely no creativity and have absolute belief in nothing. You are a heartless bastard you know that?

You have no idea who you are talking to or what you are talking about.
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#34
RE: Kingdom Hearts and Atheism
(January 9, 2018 at 1:12 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(January 9, 2018 at 1:08 pm)Mikeykitty123 Wrote: That is sad. You clearly have absolutely no creativity and have absolute belief in nothing. You are a heartless bastard you know that?

You have no idea who you are talking to or what you are talking about.

This user says souls do not exist, the afterlife does not exist and reincarnation does not exist. Next thing you'll know they'll say that emotions do not exist or love does not exist. You cannot feel or love if you have no soul.
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#35
RE: Kingdom Hearts and Atheism
(January 9, 2018 at 1:18 pm)Mikeykitty123 Wrote:
(January 9, 2018 at 1:12 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: You have no idea who you are talking to or what you are talking about.

This user says souls do not exist, the afterlife does not exist and reincarnation does not exist. Next thing you'll know they'll say that emotions do not exist or love does not exist. You cannot feel or love if you have no soul.
What makes a soul necessary for love? Why do you think you can't love without a soul?
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#36
RE: Kingdom Hearts and Atheism
(January 9, 2018 at 1:21 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(January 9, 2018 at 1:18 pm)Mikeykitty123 Wrote: This user says souls do not exist, the afterlife does not exist and reincarnation does not exist. Next thing you'll know they'll say that emotions do not exist or love does not exist. You cannot feel or love if you have no soul.
What makes a soul necessary for love? Why do you think you can't love without a soul?


A soul is necessary or else you might as well be a flower. And flowers do not feel anything.
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#37
RE: Kingdom Hearts and Atheism
(January 9, 2018 at 1:29 pm)Mikeykitty123 Wrote:
(January 9, 2018 at 1:21 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: What makes a soul necessary for love? Why do you think you can't love without a soul?


A soul is necessary or else you might as well be a flower. And flowers do not feel anything.

Do rabbits feel? Do rabbits have souls?
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#38
RE: Kingdom Hearts and Atheism
Are they christian bunnies?  Seems to me the ones that put all the eggs down under the cross ought to be getting kickbacks from the big man.


:Serious-face:

Regardless of what is or isn't ensouled, "soul" doesn't appear to account for any difference between human beings and flowers on the count of why one "feels" and the other doesn't. It may be that people have "souls" and flowers don't..but so what?
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#39
RE: Kingdom Hearts and Atheism
I'm trying to give the Dora the Explorer version here, Khem.

Edit: Anyway, that seems to have driven him off.

The intricacies of the nervous system would be lost on this one.

Sucks too, I'm just stoned enough to pull off the argumentum ad bunnyrabbitum.
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#40
RE: Kingdom Hearts and Atheism
(January 9, 2018 at 1:18 pm)Mikeykitty123 Wrote:
(January 9, 2018 at 1:12 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: You have no idea who you are talking to or what you are talking about.

This user says souls do not exist, the afterlife does not exist and reincarnation does not exist. Next thing you'll know they'll say that emotions do not exist or love does not exist. You cannot feel or love if you have no soul.

LOL.  You must still be in grade school.  "Emotion is any conscious experience characterized by intense mental activity and a certain degree of pleasure or displeasure."  It's a mental, biological (often hormonal, you'll learn about that some day) reaction to stimuli.  "Love" - and let's leave out sexual attraction and just go with caring for the well-being of another - has been identified in many species, and they don't even have to be mammalian.  The fantasy that you carry within you some invisible undetectable eternal "self" that some call a "soul" has absolutely nothing to do with emotions.  It's simply a fantasy that comes from a fear of dying.  We humans are so egotistical that we can't imagine the universe going on without us.

You need to study some science, get out more, and stop pulling outrageous statements out of your imagination and creating childish ad hominem attacks against total strangers.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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