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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 18, 2018 at 11:58 pm
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(January 18, 2018 at 11:31 pm)pool the matey Wrote: I know, it's super stupid but if that's what a girl wants then that's what needs to be done. Instead of protecting "the vast majority" this will protect "all". It's simple, if you don't need to be asked every step of the way, fine, if you do need to be asked every step of the way that's cool too. It's about giving more power to women than men...over their own bodies. Not unreasonable at all.
Sure, but no one here is saying that if a specific girl requests that of her partner he shouldn't comply.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 19, 2018 at 12:19 am
Lol I'm not accusing anyone of actually saying that. My explanation was directed at people that were stretching the idea of consent to such absurd levels that they thought permission had to be asked every.step.of the way. I'm not sure if they were joking or if they were being completely serious (God bless them in that case), whatever the case nobody got the gist of what it actually means. It's not about forcing every relationship on the planet to follow strict consent rules, Jesus, that's not at all what it means, it just seeks to give more individual freedom to women so that if they wanted to they can demand it. Obviously no woman is actually going to set a demand like that with any serious expectation of a fulfilling relationship. It's like, we have the right to tattoo a penis in our face, right? But nobody is actually going to do it, right? It's about the principle of having complete control over every individuals body. It doesn't mean everybody is going to walk around with a tattoo like that.
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 19, 2018 at 12:27 am
Fair enough
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 19, 2018 at 7:20 am
(January 18, 2018 at 10:50 pm)pool the matey Wrote: Yeah, also, the idea of asking permission every step of the way doesn't mean all relationships have to follow it. It means consent CAN go from just a "yes" in the beginning to a "yes" every step of the way. Depends on the girl though, doesn't it? If she's cool with it then there's no problem is there? But if she isn't you can't go "buh janice didn't want me to do that, so I guess Imma rape you teeheehee". Context, numbnuts, depends on the girl, if a girl you're dating wants you to ask every step of the way then you absolutely have to, no "buh buh too much work" or "buh buh kills the mood". Stfu and do it, or foff
Are you saying that's the case if the girl explicitly states that requirement? If so, I agree.
If you're saying the guy's supposed to divine that requirement from the girl's non-verbal cues, then I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree, mmkay?
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 19, 2018 at 1:03 pm
(January 18, 2018 at 9:48 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Some people can’t see anything past the word, ‘Catholic’. Wait, I think there’s a word for that...
You're right, I totally don't have any posting history to go on here ... my opinion is solely based upon that one word ...
If you think I've got anything against Catholics, why don't you come over to TTA and see how I interact with Shai over there?
Or, alternatively, you can continue with the snide insinuations.
I sure am learning a lot about the folks here.
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 19, 2018 at 1:23 pm
(January 19, 2018 at 1:03 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (January 18, 2018 at 9:48 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Some people can’t see anything past the word, ‘Catholic’. Wait, I think there’s a word for that...
You're right, I totally don't have any posting history to go on here ... my opinion is solely based upon that one word ...
If you think I've got anything against Catholics, why don't you come over to TTA and see how I interact with Shai over there?
Or, alternatively, you can continue with the snide insinuations.
I sure am learning a lot about the folks here.
You haven’t been the same since you’ve been back, Thump. 😞
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 19, 2018 at 1:36 pm
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(January 19, 2018 at 1:03 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (January 18, 2018 at 9:48 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Some people can’t see anything past the word, ‘Catholic’. Wait, I think there’s a word for that...
You're right, I totally don't have any posting history to go on here ... my opinion is solely based upon that one word ...
If you think I've got anything against Catholics, why don't you come over to TTA and see how I interact with Shai over there?
Or, alternatively, you can continue with the snide insinuations.
I sure am learning a lot about the folks here.
Can you show us specific examples of things I've posted in the past which make you accuse me of trying to advance Catholic agenda with my earlier post? And that I'm lying when I tell you that's not the case?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 19, 2018 at 1:38 pm
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If someone is raised Catholic and adopts those values in the process, is every statement they make that reflects those values therefore a deliberate attempt to further the Catholic agenda?
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January 19, 2018 at 1:43 pm
He's wrong about the agenda thing, but considering the things said about theists here, I don't see that it's as big a deal as is being made out.
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 19, 2018 at 1:45 pm
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Whateverist, even if someone has a religious agenda (read: religious background), that doesn't make their posts less genuine. I've seen less-than-genuine posts, and they usually start with something like, "I despise arguing, but . . . " or "I'm not racist, but . . ."
(January 19, 2018 at 1:43 pm)alpha male Wrote: He's wrong about the agenda thing, but considering the things said about theists here, I don't see that it's as big a deal as is being made out.
If you think that's bad, you should see the stuff said about atheists, like everywhere!
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