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RE: Trump administration announces conscience and religious freedom HHS Division
January 19, 2018 at 1:55 am
(January 19, 2018 at 1:52 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think this new law means doctors will be allowed to not treat specific patients. Neither do I think such a thing will ever be accepted.
I'm hoping you're right.
I suspect, however, that one will try and then sue his employers over any disciplinary action while citing this law.
And if that happens, it could open the floodgates.
Unfortunately there are a lot of quacks in medicine.
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RE: Trump administration announces conscience and religious freedom HHS Division
January 19, 2018 at 2:02 am
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(January 19, 2018 at 1:55 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: (January 19, 2018 at 1:52 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think this new law means doctors will be allowed to not treat specific patients. Neither do I think such a thing will ever be accepted.
I'm hoping you're right.
I suspect, however, that one will try and then sue his employers over any disciplinary action while citing this law.
And if that happens, it could open the floodgates.
Unfortunately there are a lot of quacks in medicine.
I've never heard of a doctor refusing treatment to a patient on the grounds that the patient is gay or black or whatever else. And if one did and tried to cite this law, I highly doubt it would work. No one will take seriously a doctor who refuses to give his patient medical care due to their sexuality. I don't see this being an issue, to be honest. Seems this thread is a bit misleading/an over reaction.
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RE: Trump administration announces conscience and religious freedom HHS Division
January 19, 2018 at 2:06 am
People easily forget there was a time when black people weren't accepted at white hospitals.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
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RE: Trump administration announces conscience and religious freedom HHS Division
January 19, 2018 at 2:13 am
Yeah there's no way that's gonna happen again.
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RE: Trump administration announces conscience and religious freedom HHS Division
January 19, 2018 at 2:13 am
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"Once upon a time" people refused to bake a gay cake....and that was taken "seriously" enough to warrant a supreme court case. "Once upon a time" an employer didn;t want to have to shell out for a health plan with slut pills......that also made it to SCOTUS. They won. They then took all that saved slut pill money and built a bible museum by smuggling in looted artifacts from a warzone...because they have strong moral principles and shit.
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RE: Trump administration announces conscience and religious freedom HHS Division
January 19, 2018 at 2:39 am
(January 19, 2018 at 1:44 am)Khemikal Wrote: I'm pretty sure the trump admin didn't consult her for this one, so I don't know why that would be relevant?
You were responding to my post to her, so I thought it was relevant. In the broader sense, obv. not.
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RE: Trump administration announces conscience and religious freedom HHS Division
January 19, 2018 at 4:51 am
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Quote:I'd be very surprised if "Dentist refuses to clean homosexual teeth" is either the intention or allowable.
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RE: Trump administration announces conscience and religious freedom HHS Division
January 19, 2018 at 5:27 am
I don't see what this could be for except to discriminate. What right is it that they don't already have that they want?
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RE: Trump administration announces conscience and religious freedom HHS Division
January 19, 2018 at 8:16 am
I find it interesting that the discussion seems to be limited to physicians. The laws and enforcement apply to all of health care.
Think about an EMT, all of the staff at an ER.
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RE: Trump administration announces conscience and religious freedom HHS Division
January 19, 2018 at 8:20 am
(January 19, 2018 at 12:24 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: From what I understand, the intention of this is to not force doctors to perform procedures they have a moral objection to, such as abortion. I highly doubt this will turn into doctors legitimately being allowed to refuse to treat a patient based on the patient's orientation/faith/politics..
Now if we could get you to highly doubt your imaginary friend...
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